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Okay, let's make it clear. I'm only ever going to post rookie players (18 year olds) and not anyone beyond. Not those who are close to U21 level, not those who are close to national level. You know as I do seeing you have a off-site forum account that amount of players' skills myself and past U21 and national managers have posted up on the off-site forum. People in Australia can easily assess it and look at current, past and future national and U21 players. Doesn't take a genius to search and figure out their skills.

Why did I post his stats? Because I wanted the public to know.

SBV is a questionable manager. Firstly he doesn't have a history of training players, but that doesn't mean he doesn't know how to train players given he got to ABBL. Secondly, SBV is an active manager but he played walkovers from 3rd of March to 5th of May. It may be for strategic reasons or it may be because of being inactive, who knows? Do I have faith in such a manager holding a player that can potentially play for the U21 or national team though? Finally, if I post his skills it allows those managers who have interest in buying a rookie to send a BB-mail to SBV himself to let him know they are interested.

At the end of the day it's his own player. Does he have the right to say no? Sure. Tell me if doesn't want it posted then I'll remove it. In fact, it could be for his own benefit to obtain a decent amount of income if he does sell him.

The real question you should ask is, what personal benefit do I gain from posting his skills? Would I have gained Shanmag's approval? Would I have not anticipated such negative remarks? If I wanted to uphold a respectable character to all the BB public would I have done that? Surely not. But I have no intention of thinking about myself personally. The thought was all on the U21 and national team. Especially the U21 team since it's in a transition phase with a new coach being elected. But then again, some could care less about the U21 and national team...

Last edited by Whitebeard at 5/18/2012 12:22:38 PM

SBV is a questionable manager.

This is the best thing i have read all day.

although he isnt inactive. see as he has spent close to 2.69 mil in the last 10 days

I think you lads are just reading too much into it.

Whitebeard and tremell are both great managers and excellent people. Both sides have expressed their opinion so lets move on. If you guys want to continue to debate then perhaps bbmail is now the best option. What is the best news out of all of this? South Brisbane Vultures are spending a fortune on players and Bainsy is screwed! Again!

(Well maybe not his purchases seem to be a bit odd.)

Thank you for taking the time to give a clear and concise answer.

SBV has spent alot of coin sure, but i dont think at this stage he is as good or better than VM were last season...

A 78k pf and 48k pg are really all he has to show for the spend... unless he has another 2m to spend, at this stage i dont think he is unbeatable.

we will see tho :D

Secondly, SBV is an active manager but he played walkovers from 3rd of March to 5th of May. It may be for strategic reasons or it may be because of being inactive, who knows?

I think this was done so he could guarantee first pick. I certainly never knew that the number of walkovers determines your final standing in a tie win/loss situation.

exactly. he better sell that trainee for shit loads if he wants to win this season

Secondly, SBV is an active manager but he played walkovers from 3rd of March to 5th of May. It may be for strategic reasons or it may be because of being inactive, who knows?

I think this was done so he could guarantee first pick. I certainly never knew that the number of walkovers determines your final standing in a tie win/loss situation.

What did you think that astrix meant!?

I know what it means. I mean I didn't know him forfeiting games meant he would pick above me in the draft despite us having the same win/loss record.

Logic says if you finish lower you pick higher...

This is why girls shouldn't play sports.