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220571.41 in reply to 220571.40
Date: 7/7/2012 3:12:15 AM
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Palmer couldn't do it. If he could have done it Denver would have never made the playoffs in the first place. Your point as to how the line was able to protect a qb that got hit 30-50 times a game seems like a bit of a double negative. Granted, Peyton will not take off running every time his first or even second read isn't open. He will throw the ball away when the pressure gets to be too great but he WILL get hit and get hit hard every game. And he is very fragile at this stage in his career. Denver's D is top notch, running game is 2nd tier and there is a chance if the qb stays healthy they may make the playoffs. But as much as I hope nobody ever gets injured ever in any football game I realize that Peyton's injury potential is very very high. He should have retired. What my point really is is that the addition of Peyton Manning to Denver is not going to effect the win loss record as much as everyone thinks it will. I would like to add that I am a Peyton fan and have watched him play at Neyland Stadium and hope for the best for him and whatever team he is on. He is one of the all time greats and worked very hard for all his success.



4-6 in 10 games....
QB rating of 80.5
Campbell was 4-2 but had McFadden a lot more than Palmer did.
I'd say Palmer was fairly successful, was it what they hoped... no. But, they were literally 1 point away (27-28 loss to Detroit) from being in the playoffs instead of Denver. 5 of Palmer's 10 games passed for 300+ yards (I'm counting the 299 game).

Manning's injury potential is "very very high" you say? I'm thinking, with over 1000 former players suing the NFL, that the NFL would not clear him to play, and would force him to retire, if he was in as bad shape as you seem to think. What's the win-loss everyone thinks for Denver? Peyton won't change it much? define much? they were 8-8, 11-5 is a pretty big change most people would say, I think Manning could get them to 11-5. Do I think they'll go 16-0, is that what you're implying? No.

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220571.42 in reply to 220571.41
Date: 7/7/2012 3:18:12 AM
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no. I think the Broncos will go 10-6 or 9-7 if the AFC West is competitive. Sad to say, but I don't like any team in the AFC West anymore (Except the Chargers) Will get em to the POs but will lose as a 4 seed to the Chargers. CHARGERS for AFC West!

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220571.43 in reply to 220571.42
Date: 7/7/2012 3:28:08 AM
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10-6... still a pretty good improvement over 8-8. This proves my point to the other guy.

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220571.45 in reply to 220571.44
Date: 7/7/2012 3:59:20 AM
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I expect the NFC West like this:

Rams 4-12

Cardinals 7-9

Seahawks 9-7

49ers 11-5

It's very competitive. If Kolb improves, won't be surprised to see Arizona in the PO picture in the end. If Seattle can get all the pieces assorted, they could win the division if everything goes right. (With Flynn)

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220571.46 in reply to 220571.44
Date: 7/7/2012 6:55:24 AM
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When has the NFL ever prohibited anyone from playing ever?


There have been instances...

Doctors gave Peyton toe OK to play again so the Commish can not be held liable for anything that happens to him. No one has ever been "Forced to retire" and Manning won't be either. He sells too many tickets and merchandise for that to be a consideration. As far as the change in the Broncos record, they play in what is now the weakest division in football since my NFC West has progressed last year. I cant say what their record will be but there is a good chance they make it to the playoffs since the Chargers can never seem to keep it together. My team, the 49ers did good not to get Manning in my opinion, not that they ever really had a chance. I would rather have Alex Smith. I was thinking wjen Smith was talking to Miami and Manning was talking to SF that if we couldn't get either one I would love to have Tebow if Manning went to Denver. Anyways, as far as the record change goes I'm expecting no better than 9-7. If the Broncos go 11-5 I will eat my words and never have an opinion about football again because to me, Denver's failure next year is a given.


In all honesty... there are several comments in there that just baffle me.
Preferring Alex Smith over Manning...
Hoping to land Tebow....
Those 2 comments there just baffle me...

But, as you manned up, so will I. If Tim Tebow, does anything similar to last year for the Jets after he forcibly takes Sanchez' spot... I will eat my words and never have an opinion about football again.

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220571.47 in reply to 220571.46
Date: 7/7/2012 2:13:40 PM
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In regards to the AFC West, a large part of me thinks it could come down to which running attack can make it out healthy for a full season, taking on a full load of carries.

-McGahee/Moreno
-Mathews/Ronnie Brown(FA acquisition) (Tolbert gone)
-McFadden (Michael Bush gone)
-Jamaal Charles/Peyton Hillis(FA acquisition)

Last edited by a-o at 7/7/2012 2:15:56 PM

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220571.48 in reply to 220571.47
Date: 7/7/2012 8:21:51 PM
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Its looking more McGahee/Moreno/Hillman in Denver...

but yeah I agree

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220571.49 in reply to 220571.6
Date: 7/12/2012 9:29:31 PM
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It's all about them Steelers, I don't care what people say, I've been a Steelers fan since I started watching football, that's never gonna change! I've met Troy, Ben, Hines, and Wallace. Been to 8 games, and went to the Superbowl in Detroit! I got faith in Big Ben and the team to bring another championship!

STAIRWAY TO SEVEN BABY!

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220571.50 in reply to 220571.47
Date: 7/13/2012 2:23:28 PM
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A-OOOOOOOOOOO!
Broncos are going to suck, Manning isn't what he used to be, and they don't really have any weapons.
Raiders just suck, McFadden one of their few good players, #1 McFadden, #2 their Kicker and Punter lmao.

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220571.51 in reply to 220571.50
Date: 7/14/2012 1:18:20 AM
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A-OOOOOOOOOOO!
Broncos are going to suck, Manning isn't what he used to be, and they don't really have any weapons.
Raiders just suck, McFadden one of their few good players, #1 McFadden, #2 their Kicker and Punter lmao.


I'm just quoting it... don't feel there's anything to address, just quoting it to point out you said it.

I will say: Really? "their kicker" You don't know Janikowski as a household name?

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