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From: SplitJ
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Date: 8/9/2010 3:17:12 AM
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what about making 19 years old play all the game since if our NT wont be good then tanked a couple of season for ridiculously strong 1 year?

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We only have 2 19yos in the team.
The 20yos and well trained 21yos will carry out the season.

*EDIT* Typos.

Last edited by FannyPackMan at 8/9/2010 3:49:32 AM

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From: SplitJ
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how much does experience played a part in how well player play? is it possible for a an above average player with legendary experience to beat awesome players with average experience? then our NT can just pick out very awesome 18 yrs old and feed them and hope they will be in the game still in 3 seasons time and then those 18yrs old turned 21 can dominate.

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Date: 8/9/2010 11:14:34 AM
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I personally think experience is an awesome stat to have and makes players play lots better. Just my opinion though :)

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Date: 8/9/2010 11:53:27 AM
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Not sure how much extra experience it would give but it would be a bold move. Just run for election and use that idea for your election platform lol

From: Wezegaga

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how much does experience played a part in how well player play? is it possible for a an above average player with legendary experience to beat awesome players with average experience? then our NT can just pick out very awesome 18 yrs old and feed them and hope they will be in the game still in 3 seasons time and then those 18yrs old turned 21 can dominate.

Maybe it wouldn't be fair for 20 et 21yo players owners ? ;)

From: mllama

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I do think experience plays a big factor (not enough for an average player to beat an awesome player, but substantial nonetheless)

There are a few issues with that approach however:

First, I'm not sure how much experience playing in the U21s gives - playing them from 18yos on may give 1 or 2 levels of experience, but is 1 season of slightly better performance enough to justify sacrificing 3 seasons for?

Second, there is no guarantee that the best 18yos will be the best 21yos - alot of managers may get training wrong/ go inactive etc.

Third, I think Wezagaza raises a good point, and its one of the main reasons I didnt turf out all the 21yos when our world cup campaign ended. Alot of people look forward to getting a player in the U21s, and those that have trained up the best guys (like Wezagaza with Cranshaw) deserve to be rewarded for that.

And finally, it must be remembered that the U21s are also a feeder team for the seniors, by playing guys like Cranshaw now, they may be that little bit better when they reach NT level.

Of course, there is also the issue of whether an U21 coach, after two seasons of poor performance with 18 and 19yos, would actually get voted back in to reap the rewards.

From: SplitJ
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Date: 8/10/2010 4:23:17 AM
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yer I dont mean average players, I mean above average since its almost impossible for us to compete against other large countries like china etc. so might as well aim for a win instead of many mediorce seasons. Just have to make sure the players goes to the owners you can trust.

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Date: 8/16/2010 5:54:05 PM
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Yeah with all those points you raise up about playing 18 and 19 year olds in U21 NT games for extra experience just doesn't seem feasible.

The best way to go is to get the best crop of talent for that season and see what team can muster up. Looking at those stats on Jon Bogan it looks like he is already on the brink of making the U21 starting 5 at age 20.

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Date: 8/16/2010 5:56:15 PM
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oh and great one point win against the Swedish LOL

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Date: 8/17/2010 9:23:32 AM
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you dont gain minutes on eighteen year olds for training if they play in national games

Last edited by steve trysios at 8/17/2010 9:24:12 AM

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