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I do think experience plays a big factor (not enough for an average player to beat an awesome player, but substantial nonetheless)

There are a few issues with that approach however:

First, I'm not sure how much experience playing in the U21s gives - playing them from 18yos on may give 1 or 2 levels of experience, but is 1 season of slightly better performance enough to justify sacrificing 3 seasons for?

Second, there is no guarantee that the best 18yos will be the best 21yos - alot of managers may get training wrong/ go inactive etc.

Third, I think Wezagaza raises a good point, and its one of the main reasons I didnt turf out all the 21yos when our world cup campaign ended. Alot of people look forward to getting a player in the U21s, and those that have trained up the best guys (like Wezagaza with Cranshaw) deserve to be rewarded for that.

And finally, it must be remembered that the U21s are also a feeder team for the seniors, by playing guys like Cranshaw now, they may be that little bit better when they reach NT level.

Of course, there is also the issue of whether an U21 coach, after two seasons of poor performance with 18 and 19yos, would actually get voted back in to reap the rewards.

yer I dont mean average players, I mean above average since its almost impossible for us to compete against other large countries like china etc. so might as well aim for a win instead of many mediorce seasons. Just have to make sure the players goes to the owners you can trust.

Yeah with all those points you raise up about playing 18 and 19 year olds in U21 NT games for extra experience just doesn't seem feasible.

The best way to go is to get the best crop of talent for that season and see what team can muster up. Looking at those stats on Jon Bogan it looks like he is already on the brink of making the U21 starting 5 at age 20.

oh and great one point win against the Swedish LOL

you dont gain minutes on eighteen year olds for training if they play in national games

Last edited by steve trysios at 8/17/2010 9:24:12 AM

you dont gain minutes on eighteen year olds for training if they play in national games

Ok cool, thanks mate.

Haha wow, bit of a necro post there

Lol, wasnt sure where the post came from. Had to go look up all my old posts in this thread. Nah its good to see that steve has gone through all my BS from a year ago in this thread. :)

How's my 18yo PG, Bains going?

Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: pitiful
Outside Def.: average Handling: strong
Driving: proficient Passing: proficient
Inside Shot: awful Inside Def.: pitiful
Rebounding: pitiful Shot Blocking: mediocre
Stamina: pitiful Free Throw: strong

Hey nice player you have there. Good potential and good height.
I would train his outside defence for the rest of this season though.

I am even more excited to see that he has my old draft pick Wazza Tickle! By his salary it seems you have trained him quite a bit, well done. I thought he was really cool but I remember he had one horrible flaw which made me get rid of him. Fantastic work!