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if you are trying to win the cup you will send in scrubs until the week you get knocked out of the cup, so if you are knocked out in the 7th week that is not 1,3,5 or 7 weeks of tanking. It's just not tanking.

Thats not necessarily true. If you have a deep team you can facilitate a deep run without having to run your starters and only if you are unlucky to be matched up against a relatively strong opponents int he first few weeks.

Barring any bad luck, the first 3-4 weeks of a cup run is mainly against D4-D3 teams (from australia) which a D2 team's bench can safely dispose of without having to run starters

Thats not necessarily true. If you have a deep team you can facilitate a deep run without having to run your starters and only if you are unlucky to be matched up against a relatively strong opponents int he first few weeks.

So if you don't have a deep team and have to send in your starters into the cup you should be punished more than a deeper team.

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if you are unlucky to be matched up against a relatively strong opponents int he first few weeks.

So again should be punished over a team that has to play against a bot, because you were unlucky and the others were lucky to play against bot's.

Barring any bad luck, the first 3-4 weeks of a cup run is mainly against D4-D3 teams (from australia) which a D2 team's bench can safely dispose of without having to run starters

What about if your in Spain or the USA, should you be punished because you don't have bot's in div 4?

Your not the only one playing this game, you have to think about how any changes are going to affect others playing the game. The best thing about BB is that everyone can come up with there own strategy on how they want to play. The BB's are adding stuff like Inside/ outside Isolation and Inside / outside box and 1 to create more and different strategy's.
If they keep taking away the ability to come up with different strategy's we will all be playing the same way and that would not be fun.

It the same as why the BB's wont stop day trading. It's a different strategy and anyone can do it if they want.

So if you don't have a deep team and have to send in your starters into the cup you should be punished more than a deeper team.

Thats your choice to not have a deep team. I don't see how thats relevant. Same thing applies today regardless as teams that don't have deep team get in GS trouble when they attempt to play their starters for cup games.

So again should be punished over a team that has to play against a bot, because you were unlucky and the others were lucky to play against bot's.

The cup can come down to luck at times. It all balances out. Some times you get get a tough opponent early. Other times, you will see D4 teams for 4-5 weeks in a row. It is luck of the draw. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Its never about punishing anyone. Again, nothing has changed from how it works right now. Tanking one game is not a trend. Besides as proposed, there are other factors like total team salary compared to league average, etc.

What about if your in Spain or the USA, should you be punished because you don't have bot's in div 4?

Your not the only one playing this game, you have to think about how any changes are going to affect others playing the game.

That was a bit uncalled for. What I am getting at is that nothing would have changed regardless. I don't get how there is any punishing at all when there are just more teams in the cup.Spain/USA have bots in D5. Their cup just lasts longer because they have more teams. How is that relevant? Thats just saying as an Aussie team, you get drawn against a D3 team(less bots in D3). You might or might not have to tank. It all depends.

As you say, there are many ways to play this game and the best thing is that you can do whatever you like with your team to succeed. The whole point of this thread is about preventing season long tankers. A don't see how tanking the odd game here or there is relevant to this thread as this is NOT what it is about.

This is about tanking from the day you reached your league just for the extra income. Not tanking a game here or there so you can maybe extend a cup run.

The whole point of the thread is to stop people from tanking.

My point is that there is no way on telling how much, how long, and why a team is tanking. If someone sell's there players at the start of a season to save good money for the first few week's and buy's better players mid season to help win the finals, that's not tanking it's just a different strategy.

So there is no way to work out how to punish tankers when there are so many reasons why people tank 1 game, 5 games or a season.

And that's the last thing I'm saying.

I think the solution is
1. to give some kind of extra income for winning
or/and
2. Have significant drops in attendance for 1st(and 2nd in larger countries) division teams that lose by 20+ points in 10 consecutive games.
or/and
3. Significant drop in attendence if home team plays less than 5 players.
or/and
4. Have significant drop in attendence if team salary is 75% less than avg. league salary.