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Thank you for you arguments, you presented them very well. After the initial praise, I started to think about my trainee and realized the same as you did, so my opinion changed. I don't want to say I hate the new system because I don't; a season or two will have to pass for us to see the change in practice. But if it works the way we all understand, the change actually could annihilate the two seasons I already invested for my trainee and the future three seasons I already have planned. Not only he maybe won't enter the NT, but I also knowingly gave up the promotion from D.III the season I drafted him.

Last edited by Koperboy at 7/28/2011 7:05:46 AM

Excellent post. you have suggested here that a SG with a low REB score will suddenly improve to be better than a C in rebounding. Hmmm. a "possible" increase of 10% that has a probability of occurring once every 10 trainings. Yes it's going to cause major fluctuations.

I am the scout of the national team of Hungary. I might be the new manager of the national team if I can win the elections.

WE HAVE a long term plan, or I should say WE HAD a long term plan and now it is uncertain as it is. I just have no idea what to say to managers who develop our players and there are many of them. I think the majority of them will just stop training and drop the players to get new players who are trainable according to the new system.

What I am angry about is the fact that there is no explanation. Why was the new system introduced? What were the reasons for it? If you introduce a new system you have to have explanations and you must know why it is advantageous for the users and the development of the game. But I just cannot see any exact direction to where the game develops, but I can see measures without any reason, measures just because it is funny to make changes. Is it enjoyable to see us all suffering?

Nevermind. Saw Coco's later post.

Last edited by HeadPaperPusher at 7/28/2011 7:32:19 AM

no one wanted.

I did.

I think- and this is just what I think, absolutely nothing official- the main reason behind the training changes is a response to the community being so upset about the salaries of big men. The community has said time and again that the system is not working.

Players with ridiculous salaries have been a big sticking point on the forums. Recalculating salaries each season (another drop in wages this season- unmentioned I notice) is one way this has been tackled. These changes might, down the road, lead to slightly lower salaries for the behemoths.

1. I honestly don't think that you will notice a drastic change in your players unless your train them for many seasons. And if you do, perhaps you will be happy with their performance. Let's say you single position train a C for three seasons, rotating ID, IS, and REB 4 times and training stamina and FT once. Using the Training Speed Analysis you will have roughly 13.5 pops in ID and IS, 9 in REB, and a couple in driving and JS. So under the new system you would have 12.15 in ID and IS, 8.1 in REB, a couple in DR and JS, and about 4 pops spread around 10 skills. After three seasons.

2.see above.
3. Ask Mark Cuban about the value of older players. Older players are valuable because of their experience. Why should this be devalued?

Finally: a well-managed team is one that is flexible enough to know that changes happen all the time in this game. We were told about this at the beginning of last season.

I think- and this is just what I think, absolutely nothing official- the main reason behind the training changes is a response to the community being so upset about the salaries of big men. The community has said time and again that the system is not working.

Players with ridiculous salaries have been a big sticking point on the forums. Recalculating salaries each season (another drop in wages this season- unmentioned I notice) is one way this has been tackled. These changes might, down the road, lead to slightly lower salaries for the behemoths.

If this were the reason for the changes, then what was needed was a change to the game engine. If a team full of well-rounded players could actually beat a team full of behemoths, nobody would ever own said behemoths, and they could fade into oblivion and die.

Have we seen a team of well-rounded players yet?

BC Hostivar on season 15?

Did he beat any behemoth teams?

he almost beat VS in semifinals without his starting PG... also his national team performs better than it should based on the payroll of players, and he's the manager.

Last edited by Koperboy at 7/28/2011 8:34:04 AM