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Date: 3/25/2012 10:41:08 AM
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Boozer is a vastly overrated and overpaid player. To begin with, he pads his stats and has always played with good pgs (Rose, Williams) and the Jazz under jerry sloan where one of the best teams in offensive execution during his stay. His defense has always been none existent (in the west he got owned by gasol every time the lakers played and then destroyed by chris bosh last season in the playoffs). Worst of all, he chokes in the playoffs every time. Against the lakers his offense would vanish as gasol would get anything he wanted... leaving the jazz with a defensive hole that also couldn't score.
Every playoff series boozer gets tons of hype from commentators who end up making excuses for him. Like"gasol has a size advantage" well so what, He also had an advantage in bulk which he consistently failed to use to his advantage. Barkley played at a disadvantage in size most of his entire career and still put up amazing stats in both the reg season and post season. Shaq completely destroyed Rik Smitts in the 2000 finals (38 pts and 16.7 rb per game) despite rik smits being 7'4" to shaq 7'1" On the defensive end Rodman used shut down larger players all the time while also out rebounding them, such as David Robinson, Karl Malone, Shawn Kemp, Chris Webber and Shaq.
The way Boozer plays defense alone, he would not be welcome on any team. He even allowed a struggling Bosh (who seemed to be lost the entire post season) to drop 24 ppg on 64% shooting on him through the series. Oh and where did his much needed offense go in the playoffs? 12.6 pts on 43% fg for a PF leaves much to be desired.
While he is not a garbage player, he is a frustrating one that gets way more credit than he deserves. Atleast Varejo can play defense and doesn't demand huge money just to drop off in the post season like boozer who is way overhyped and overpaid.
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Date: 3/25/2012 11:49:57 AM
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Very good points about his playoff choking... I do think Bosh had a solid playoffs last year, but all his years in Utah he has 0 excuses for. He has always had a solid PG, even in Cleveland it was Andre Miller, then LeBron.
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Date: 3/26/2012 2:18:27 PM
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McGee off the bench for the Nuggets: 13 PPG 8 RPG 2.3 BPG in 25 minutes per game
Nene starting for the wizards: 16.3 PPG 8.7 RPG 1.3 BPG in 32 minutes per game
Now im no expert but i think that McGee is holding up about even with Nene. He may even be getting better production than Nene.
Nene is averaging 7 more minutes than McGee and is only putting up .7 more rebounds, 3.3 more points, and LESS blocks than McGee. I bet you if McGee got the starting roll for denver then he could easily beat the numbers that Nene is putting up.
We can agree to disagree though. P.S. Im a Nuggets fan, and was very disappointed with Nene leaving for McGee, but i have been very pleased with the trade.
Murray/Harris/MPJ/Grant/Jokic - 2020 NBA Champs
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Date: 3/26/2012 8:02:33 PM
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Agreed. Boozer is a six million dollar player making what, 12 or 13 million? But I thought Nene was overpaid too and I think I'd take him over Boozer. Want to know the difference is between defensive minded, limited offensive bigs and wings/guards? About 7 million a year. I'd put D'Andre Jordan in that category, Kendrick Perkins and next year JaVale Mcgee will probably join the overpaid group.
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Date: 3/26/2012 9:56:02 PM
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Nene also, has not exactly been a 9 rebound per game player in his career either...
And correct me if I'm wrong, but McGee's contract pays him a lot less than Nene. Wilson Chandler able to be signed in Denver as a result, and Chandlers been playing fairly well, much needed too with Gallinari getting injured again.
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Date: 3/26/2012 11:50:32 PM
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I hate boozer with all my soul. I hate him so much. Me being a big man( 6 feet tall at 15 yrs old) I love to finish strong. There is no reason 4 me to fade away and layup everytime. I'd much rather dunk. I hate finess bigmen unless they're small in mass( ex.Ralph Sampson, Pau Gasol) But still boozer is my most hated NBA player. If he would just use his size and b more aggresive he could be one of the top big men but he dosen't. I have no respect for him as a player. I hate Carlos boozer in cleveland, utah, and chicago.
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Date: 3/27/2012 1:12:02 AM
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Aww,3 inches talelr than me,but Im 17.
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Date: 3/27/2012 5:13:44 PM
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I also don't think of 6'0 at 16 as "big men". But I agree with all your points, +1
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Date: 3/28/2012 2:01:43 AM
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I think the Blazers made the best trade. They traded Gerald Wallace for what could be the fourth pick in the draft, which might be Andre Drummond - who I consider a similar prospect to a young Greg Oden. It was a desperation move by the Nets who needed to make the team more enticing to Dwight.
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Date: 3/28/2012 10:25:59 AM
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I wouldn't say 15 as being a man yet, no offence.
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Date: 3/28/2012 1:48:50 PM
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lol, +1 to that as well.
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