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Raising the salary floor was the simpliest way to battle against tanking. There has been many other propositions and we are still hoping for them to be implemented, but for the moment, it's not possible. We have to do with what we have.

You may have salary efficient players, but no way you would be able to be in PO in D3 (yes D3) in France.

Managers in other countries aren't dumb, they just have to face good competition, so you should be happy to still get more money than them.

What's the TV contract in French D3?

I didn't say anybody was dumb, apart from the simulated fans of this game who get taken advantage of by teams who make money and don't spend it on players because they want to relegate. And I also acknowledged that if anybody was smarter it's people in D2 of a more populated country because they had to face more competition.

Take my league for example: Is it my fault that some of them buy inefficient players, costing them lots of money, driving the TV contracts and salary floor up? Why should I be punished for that by having to adopt the same unsound strategies? I just promoted, my priority is to avoid relegation. I don't need a payroll of more than 125k to achieve that (in part because I manage enthusiasm well, game shape well and I have expensive staff). Why do I have to pay 50k penalty every week? Are they saying I should buy inefficient players instead and less expensive staff so that they get injured every once in a while? According to what dogma should I apply this failed formula in this particular context?

I don't see a staff salary floor for those who chose to save money on staff?

If this is a temporary fix, fine, but I'm afraid it's might not be. It is flawed in many ways. BTW I'm not anti-regulation in the real world, I'm not a liberal, so I'm not against this for ideological reasons. But it attacks the symptoms not the root cause, and I'm afraid it has severe side effects.

Just because you don't think the salary floor isn't effective in your specific league (which is debateable) doesn't mean that the other 99% of the leagues where it is an effective measure against tanking should be ignored. Congrats on putting a cost effective and competitive team together but it still works as it's intended in almost every instance my friend.

Just because you don't think the salary floor isn't effective in your specific league (which is debateable) doesn't mean that the other 99% of the leagues where it is an effective measure against tanking should be ignored. Congrats on putting a cost effective and competitive team together but it still works as it's intended in almost every instance my friend.

Do you think it is normal that theoretically, a team could go bankrupt because of the salary floor?

Picture a team that has such low revenues outside of TV contract that he cannot sustain a decent roster. Now that team should get relegated, but what would happen is that it will get deleted. You don't see a problem there?

Problem solved as long as you don't have the bad luck of promoting before building enough arena seats. In this case, promoting hurts you more than not promoting, which is absurd, especially when the aim is to encourage competitiveness.

If any team goes bankrupt, it's not due to the salary floor. It's due to all the money mismanagement that took place well beforehand. Theoretically.

I think you're really reaching here.

If any team goes bankrupt, it's not due to the salary floor. It's due to all the money mismanagement that took place well beforehand. Theoretically.

I think you're really reaching here.

Look plenty of teams go bankrupt because they can't manage money properly and I'm perfectly okay with that. But in this case the team that promotes ends up making LESS money than if it didn't promote, because of salary floor, despite featuring a roster perfectly adequate for avoiding relegation in their first season. Talk about an incentive to promote... Now I agree that going bankrupt would require many particular circumstances that are very unrealistic in most cases, yes.

Honestly, it looks like fixes being implemented over previous fixes to fix problems created by fixes themselves, and where is it going to end? Trim this fix-puzzle down. All this tanking is because the fan logic is flawed.

Your debate aside, the salary floor is still an excellent anti-tanking measure IMO. In fact you're the first person that I've seen that doesn't seem to think this is the case.

But they're never going to be able implement a change that has an 100% approval rating. That's obviously not realistic. But that doesn't mean that doing nothing is the proper step either. But making a change that looks like a step in the proper direction by a huge majority is still a positive move.

Your debate aside, the salary floor is still an excellent anti-tanking measure IMO. In fact you're the first person that I've seen that doesn't seem to think this is the case.

No actually I DO think it works fine on tanking. It's just that it creates other problems.

But they're never going to be able implement a change that has an 100% approval rating. That's obviously not realistic. But that doesn't mean that doing nothing is the proper step either. But making a change that looks like a step in the proper direction by a huge majority is still a positive move.

I agree, as long as it's temporary, until they make fans that actually voice their displeasure when a team that has money and is heading to the bottom doesn't use it to prevent relegation.