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You want me to include farm teams in the consideration? Sorry if I don't give props to farm teams because I don't know who they are. Perhaps I did give props to them....

So... because you were too lazy to do the footwork in finding out who owns players, we can just disregard them.
Pity the facts don't support your ... "reality".

Dude? Don't put yourself in the same category as Swoosh and Stunners. Quite frankly, it's rather obscene.

And sure: you can point to Sonoda and Suenami as "trained by other people and are not young", but other than that: get your head outta your ass.

"Staffing the players and keeping up their GS"? Same as you wolph, same as you.

Last edited by malice at 9/15/2012 8:06:38 PM

You, are hilarious.

I really don't give anything resembling a "care" about whether you attempt to disrespect me or not (but at LEAST be honest about it: you most definitely are!). Nor do I care how you regard me.
I do find your chest-beating and constant put-downs pretty funny tho'. And I do enjoy poking the hornet's nest and watching you buzz.

The reality is wolph that beyond training Tsunami (which OBVIOUSLY benefits your team), you're not doing that much for either NT or U21 (well, ok: completely nothing for the U21 team).

And Tsunami take Oishi's spot? Maybe... in a season or so. That'd be a major jump in minutes tho', and will happen more by default than anything else. It's funny how you can disparage the quality of bigs in the country, yet conveniently ignore the dearth of talent at the SF position.

Just... don't put yourself *now* (which is the tense used before) in the same category as Mizik or Swoosh. Hell... now? Don't put yourself in the same category as Toranaga, Isehara or any of us training more than one national rep.

Last edited by malice at 9/15/2012 8:42:20 PM

The biggest issue with YC training to make Asano an SF is probably the existance of other SFs

Yeah....Asano will be a PF at the NT level but he will be a PF with at least 11 OD when I am finished with him which means for JBBL games, and with us still being in the Look Inside ERA...he can and is balling at the SF spot. And Motoori will never be a SF, I know that but his secondaries will all be over strong.
But next season I will be starting two Japanese bigs and I hope it jumpstarts my merchandise.

Last edited by Yellow cake at 9/15/2012 9:00:13 PM

I am not the best trainer but I will say what I have done.

1) Bought Daisaku Kawaida as a raw 18 year old and trained him 100% myself. Coach didn't play him season 16 or early in 17 but later in 17 when he got a chance he was a regular backup getting good stats and ratings.

2) Noritada Konoe was my draft pick & started from a very low level about $3000 salary but improved fast and never fouled out. After the real games were over season 17 he was the starting SG in the last 5 scrimmages was top scorer in 2, top 3 scorer in the other 3 and one of the best 3 players on the team in 4 of the 5 games. Start of season 18 the coach didn't like him and refused to play him but once he did Konoe was again one of the three in scoring AND rating EVERY game.

3) I bought Hirofumi Sonoda for a fortune assuming I could still train him but despite about a season of training (he still gets a week from time to time) he was capped and has only had about 1-2 pops for me ever. I have kept him in good game shape and he has been a top contributor for the NT starting many games.

4) I bought Kaname Kouzuki for not that much. He had been doing nothing for the NT because he was never in good game shape. He was already very old so training was not practical but I kept his game shape up and he has been a solid contributor for the NT.

5) I bought Takayoshi Kawagichi from Wolph also as a raw 18 year old who had only played 1 scrimmage for FCTB. I trained him up from scratch. Season 19 the coach refused to play him until the last three scrimmages of the season where he got the best ratings on the team twice and second best once and hit 5/7, 7/8 and 4/4 FGs and generally played much better than the guys that had been cutting him out of the team the whole season. Season 20 despite the dissapointment of the close losses he was a key part of the team and a major contributor.

6) I drafted Shin Shidehara but again he had very low starting skills and I remember debating on these boards if he was too low to train but people suggested I did. By age 19 he was on the U21 team playing in the season 20 scrimmages as an occasional backup. This season on the undefeated U21 team he has been the starting PG at age 20 (mainly due to a lack of PGs this season) and has another season ahead of him where I hope he will be 1 of our best guard defenders ever being somewhere around prodigious/proficient by the start of the U21 games next season. Have we ever had better?

7) Next season I will spend whatever it takes to get a high potential 18 year old to start the next cycle of training. I have $2 million now and am making almost $200,000 a week (Typical Weekly Net Income:$ 199 596) so money will be no problem.

That is my contribution. I would have contributed more but potential has been my downfall. My next trainee I want to be a MVP.

To defend the coach, he asked me to train some passing 3 weeks ago. 2 pops in passing done for The Shinkansen, now I can get back to defence.

Last edited by Lord Toranaga at 9/16/2012 12:10:37 AM

Wolph says: F**K I ROCK

No wolphy, you don't.

I think quite poignantly, it's not me who "doesn't get it".

I know Tsunami is great but is he really 130 TSP already? It seems odd with only a $26k salary. (Everyone knows SFs have their salaries calculated in a funny low way.) Also his DMI of only DMI: 187600 at strong.

Takayoshi Kawagichi is only in the 100+ category but with a $50k salary. He has a proficient DMI of 846500 which right now would make him 8th on the NT. Please don't bother telling me yet again that salary, DMI, ratings etc all mean nothing, otherwise all we are left with is opinion. Takayoshi Kawagichi is a year younger than Tsunami. They have the same potential.

I certainly think Tsunami is a great well rounded player I just don't understand how you can say Tsunami is a great player and Takayoshi Kawagichi (double the salary, double + the DMI, 1 year younger, same potential, high TSP) is a joke.

A nation with 33 users, we aren't trying to beat 2,000 user China, but a well trained team of superstars supporting a the HoF guys should put us up with a lot of nations with 5-10 times our population.

Last edited by Lord Toranaga at 9/16/2012 12:48:43 AM