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I would be surprised if most of the best teams in the world aren't there because they trained and know how training works. But you can rip on training if you want. I know so many users happy to train than changing training for the sake of changing would be a bad idea.

Now you can tell to newcomers to not train and why, let other users tell them to train and why, then the newcomers will make their own choice. Deal ? You are not alone in that fight, you have Mr Glass with you.

I would also be surprised. I think they likely did do some training to get to the top, and know how it works. In fact, those are the guys who defend training the way it is, no matter how illogical it is, because knowing how it works is an advantage to them that they don't want to give up.

For the record, I don't tell newcomers to not train and never have. But I also don't pretend it is logical the way it exists now. It is an illogical mess, but they have to put up with it because BB is a training sim even more than it is a basketball sim.

Its not my job to embarrass people but look here I have a created 150 million from arena alone in the past , no player flipping, minor selling players, no tanking, in every season I've been on BB made the playoff except 2, all from arena and winning all legit with bad teams , good teams it didn't matter.. I have a created 22 million with this team im sitting on 6 million( are you). No other div 2,3.,4 team make what i make which is 2.2 million a season. Go look at my game attendance and go look around and show me who has done it.? Only the top level is making what i make sdly some are not like your self. . So You haven't and I don't need to look. You don't know how, so I need to explain.

No tanking ,no cheap way of play with me. Trainers and players have differ cost for a reason and that reason is to be financially sound in management as you build within a system on BB. If you cant understand that then keep tooting your horn.

. If you played the actual way the game was meant to be played then maybe just maybe you wouldn't blow money on training for a tactic that everyone else is playing. You would have more than you have today in income and everything else, not to embarrass you. I play outside tactics more than anything which are the most expensive tactics on the games to build for and still has created mass revenue in the lower leagues , more than anyone. Put that point in your head what I would/could have in the higher leagues with also winning, once again 100 million+ if not more with this market if I wanted too.

Its too easy. So yea I don't need to understand anything you say because its minor to me.. Get your money up for all the player's you have, go train and call it success. Demoting because your not a financial success( which is part of the game, one of the the cores is financial success). Training for Li/lp alone never = profit, will never equal sure success. Planning does., which consist of many things On BB . Which you don't understand, because you haven't done it.

1. Is doing arena 1st, not when you damn well please , but 1st!! you haven't learned that lesson because your still doing arena when you damn well please. Which ends this conversation/


Last edited by Mr. Glass at 4/25/2015 5:46:51 PM

I don't a think 0000.3 is worth 15k$.

I'd gladly offer as much as 50k a week if i got a 30% boost in training!

The reason you'd do that with many others doing the same. is because you think you could make that 30% back or more in a sell. which is what going on, which is why some say get the higher trainer to start.

Which I said I understood, but again its not gureented to get 30% back with any sale of players just because you trained at a higher rate, you can get same sell rate with lower a trainer.No matter how we cut it.

@ egm Pertete. when did I express, don't train to anyone keep creating falsehoods/ I said don't buy expensive trainers and getting one cheap like some make it sound is not easy maybe because you live over seas and half the game is blind not to fight bid on the cheap good trainers.. I also find it funny you try to twist things for your favor. If level4 is the best then get rid of the others send that up to bb marin right now. But he will tell you the system is set up to different budget of the bb financial climate for all teams.

Something again you omit to say.

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 4/25/2015 6:20:33 PM

As I expected, that was funny. lol.

Has nothing to do with anything I have said, or anything that has been said in this thread, but it certainly was hilarious.

Nor did it contain any factual details - unless someone simply accepts your unsupported claims as being "facts."

And while I certainly hadn't been tooting my own horn (that's something you do more than anyone else in the forums - although always without any evidence that your horn is one deserving of tooting), for what it is worth though, I made over 1.8 million net this past season while being competitive (2nd in my conference) in Div II. My team plays and wins with just about every tactic. And I haven't ever demoted - although my Utopia team will this coming season. But that is largely because I paid very little attention to it this season as I was bot promoted last season. I decided to keep focusing on training players and building my arena rather than buying the type of players I would have needed to be competitive in DIII. I tried to compete with the players I had, but recognized that I was likely to finish either 7th or 8th, and therefore would demote because of the rules in Utopia.

You certainly haven't embarrassed me at all with your ridiculous, uninformed ranting. But do continue on with your delusions.


Edit: Just in case anyone now thinks I am "tooting my own horn", please realize that I don't think any of what I posted about my team is really that impressive. It was posted mainly to show how baseless Mr. Glass' clueless rant was. There are a number of teams in my league who I suspect did similar (perhaps made more or less on arena, but paid less or more for salaries, etc.) and I haven't bothered to look at the other three DII leagues in the US, much less the entire BB world. I think I'm a decent manager, but have never claimed to be an elite one. I suspect there are plenty of others doing better than I am.

Last edited by Alec Burke at 4/25/2015 7:38:24 PM

Its not my job to embarrass people but look here I have a created 150 million from arena alone in the past

I'm afraid we'll need to investigate, as by my calculations, assuming 11 home games plus a full playoff run as a #1 seed under the old 2:1 split, and assuming 600,000 attendance per game, starting from game 1, season 1, it would take you into season 16 to have that earned amount, and as I know you started this team a little bit before mine in season 15, clearly you were running two accounts and would need to be banned. Which is a shame, as you certainly managed to avoid us all for so long, but you're just too clever for your own good.

That's true. But what kind of advice is it telling them that the trainer they get will make any difference?

Truthful -

I think it is the opinion of quite a few, but by any measure far from unanimous.

This is my second team I have been here 24 season in total way before you was even active here. My 1st team massed 150 million.. If know what your doing you can make 5-10 million a season in the top league . I know managers who made more than that back when I played then. How so you think a lot was able to afford B3 player going 5 million or so a piece.?

this second team 22 million.. Sitting on 6 million all honest play

I play for fun now , not for glory.. For fun. Some can say what ever they want, they haven't done it and when I tell them to do It, they say it cant be done. So closed mouth' s don't get fed.

Why it cant it be just I'm financially sound in economics of the game. Why cant it be I learned how make great money with the system BB has? Why does it have to be anything dis honest? That what I find funny because a lot cant do it, it has to be dishonest .

Trainer man has made more than 150 million in his life time here, maybe 700 million if not 1 billion. I don't see anyone screaming hoarding. I would of had that too but I'm not a good market manager like him. He never lost on a player sale, I was afraid to lose on sales and only sold mildly at a high price when needed, so I just build my arena and won games. I play the same way today minus training for glory . I could i if wanted too but I don't think a lot would like that and would want tp put new rule in place. A lot of jealousy on BB

So I play outside tactics now and for fun, the system don't allow the(OS team) to win because this a inside game mostly. If manager knew anything about making money then, it pretty simple to understand cost over = saving . Not my fault its a lop sided tactical game in cost.

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 4/25/2015 10:03:15 PM

This is my second team I have been here 24 season in total way before you was even active here. My 1st team massed 150 million.. If know what your doing you can make 5-10 million a season in the top league . I know managers who made more than that back when I played then. How so you think a lot was able to afford B3 player going 5 million or so a piece.?

You absolutely did not earn $150 million just from arena, especially if you're now saying your original team was only here 9-10 seasons. It's fundamentally impossible. It's even impossible if you include TV revenue and merchandising. I also find it exceptionally implausible that you were previously in the top league and B3 pretty much ever, especially considering that if it happened to have been in the USA, there's only one team in the USA that's played in the B3 that went bot early enough to not overlap your team, and that was a GM.

There's likewise no way Trainerman has made 700 million here, even if you combine his old and new team.

Most importantly, and the part that's relevant to the thread, I know for a fact that it's not exceptionally difficult to find advanced trainer with reasonably low salaries for low starting prices.

hrudey what you don't believe is a non issue here just listen. Go ask him. Trainerman has more made than mostly anyone from the market in selling on BB . I made over 150millon then, no its not impossible it called saving what you earned through arena and win selling mildly when the time is right. The market didn't have many restriction then, players were going for way higher then today with true value. Some players were 7 million built way better than anything we have today . It was not hard to get that kind of money everyone had the ratio for arena back then. You didn't have train mandatory then, so which you had excess to a lot money in saving to buy. You didn't need top potential unless you were in level 2.

Go ask some body, some top team were spending 15-20 million for a team to compete every season to go to b3. The market is in bad shape here because BB removed the money from teams to buy and the quality from the market. Out of jealousy of that notion people could bid buy 5-7 million for a player each and even flip them on a whim.

Go ask him trainer man Is that correct, he has never lost on a player sale ,he was here before me. his player selling log was atleast 300 pages deep then. I remember that. He was selling some player for 1-2 million+ a piece at one point for many seasons. I sold players too, but not in his volume. He had way more $$ than me. A lot did.