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308441.42 in reply to 308441.40
Date: 3/29/2021 7:57:44 AM
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There are ads that we have set to show up on every player page which directs how to contact the U21 and NT if you haven’t been contacted. I can’t speak for the U21 on contacting you, but from a NT side your player had less than a 1% chance at spawn due to his potential. With the training buffs, the age of MVPs on the NT is dying and you might only see one every couple seasons if they have a build that is necessary.

As for your player now, I looked and he has no chance to make the NT. He can still be a decent piece for your club team for sure since he is extremely balanced, but he will at no point be close to good enough for the highest level of competition.

This isn’t a knock on you or your training, or as Lambini would like to believe a knock on the NT for not talking with you. It’s a simple matter of spending NT time/resources on the players that have an actual shot at making the team.

Last edited by khenry at 3/29/2021 8:01:25 AM

I once had a team with 1757 players and was $25,835,360 in debt. This is not that team. Join the Discord group open to anyone, but especially for USA managers to improve your club or get involved with the U21 and NT programs (https://discord.gg/cKpNkt2).
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308441.43 in reply to 308441.41
Date: 3/29/2021 7:58:41 AM
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Which is exactly what we do at the Discord so...

And if you’re taking that as your proof of the NT not talking with “potential NT players”, well you go ahead and feel free to fill the NT with Superstar and MVP players when you get the job. All this did was reiterate to me that we’ve been talking to the managers who have players with the best chance to make the team.

Last edited by khenry at 3/29/2021 8:10:24 AM

I once had a team with 1757 players and was $25,835,360 in debt. This is not that team. Join the Discord group open to anyone, but especially for USA managers to improve your club or get involved with the U21 and NT programs (https://discord.gg/cKpNkt2).
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308441.44 in reply to 308441.43
Date: 3/29/2021 8:20:20 AM
Cyborgs
III.16
Overall Posts Rated:
7878
Second Team:
Brawlers
As I mentioned in my post, there was an opportunity for me to contact the staff, it just would have been nice to maybe have the staff contact you on a possible potential player for the NT TEAM, now I understand a little bit better that 1- you don’t have the staff and 2- you don’t waste your time on anything less than HOF due to the level of competition.... maybe at some point I will get a player that meets the NT requirements...

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308441.45 in reply to 308441.44
Date: 3/29/2021 8:48:28 AM
Alaska Alphas
III.8
Overall Posts Rated:
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Second Team:
Oregon Omegas
Ok to me this post just shows that you don’t follow the NT at all... look at any major NT in the game and tell me how many MVPs you see. It’s not gonna be many, and those that are, are likely perfectly trained to max TSP under the MVP cap. To say that it’s a failure of the NT to not assume that some random MVP, who has $12k salary at 22, is being perfectly trained, is a joke.

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308441.46 in reply to 308441.45
Date: 3/29/2021 8:55:42 AM
Cyborgs
III.16
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Second Team:
Brawlers
I never said it was a failure of the NT staff, I said it would have been nice to have been contacted by the staff and I also said I had the opportunity to contact them as well... so why are we taking it to this level... I already had a discussion with KHenry and I understand now what NT is looking for on the team...

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308441.47 in reply to 308441.46
Date: 3/29/2021 12:03:19 PM
Flashover
NBBA
Overall Posts Rated:
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Second Team:
Reuben Jones 2.0
Since your player is currently 22 years old. I think I'm in the best position to speak to this.

1. The inefficiency of BB scouting is making it hard for us NT managers to contact all the players. Every offseason I have to manually add/drop 600+ players, 18 players at a time in order to complete the scouting in a limited amount of time, on top of the actual life schedule (work, family etc.)

2. As mentioned above, 12k salary at 22 years old likely didn't make the cut when I scout. We do what we can to limit the number of players we have to scout in order to save time and move forward.

While it is nice to have NT staffs contact every single USA owner, I hope my message helps you and all other owners understand the workload better, and make sure to use the resources provided to you guys (BB-mail, Discord, or even post something in the post I created on-site?) and reach out to us should you feel your player is being left off.

Last edited by GForce03 [HK U21] at 3/29/2021 12:07:17 PM

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308441.48 in reply to 308441.47
Date: 3/29/2021 12:54:06 PM
Cyborgs
III.16
Overall Posts Rated:
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Second Team:
Brawlers
I appreciate the feedback, I was totally unaware of the types and Potentials of players that are needed to make the NT Team competitive in the Worlds... I see now that my player although has MVP Potential he is way behind the curve to ever play on the team and would definitely be a weak link in any NT games and does not deserve to be on the team. I wish I could be more involved with either of the USA Teams but unfortunately I work 70 hours a week and as you put it well, real life takes priority... Now with a better understanding if I am ever fortunate enough to either draft or purchase the type of player needed, I will directly contact one of the USA Team Managers...

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308441.49 in reply to 308441.48
Date: 3/29/2021 1:39:17 PM
Flashover
NBBA
Overall Posts Rated:
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Second Team:
Reuben Jones 2.0
For sure, real life takes priority like you mentioned.

You are always welcome to join Discord if you want to chat about training and player development moving forward.

Feel free to direct message me!

https://discord.gg/6rvXdMGZ

Last edited by GForce03 [HK U21] at 3/29/2021 7:49:15 PM

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308441.50 in reply to 308441.46
Date: 3/29/2021 9:45:20 PM
Alaska Alphas
III.8
Overall Posts Rated:
6464
Second Team:
Oregon Omegas
I just reread my original reply to you and I realize now it probably came off a lot more rude than I intended it. I should’ve been more clear, I guess I misunderstood the point you were making in your first post and I’m sorry I replied that way.

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308441.51 in reply to 308441.47
Date: 3/29/2021 11:04:09 PM
Greensboro Generals
III.7
Overall Posts Rated:
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Since your player is currently 22 years old. I think I'm in the best position to speak to this.

1. The inefficiency of BB scouting is making it hard for us NT managers to contact all the players. Every offseason I have to manually add/drop 600+ players, 18 players at a time in order to complete the scouting in a limited amount of time, on top of the actual life schedule (work, family etc.)

2. As mentioned above, 12k salary at 22 years old likely didn't make the cut when I scout. We do what we can to limit the number of players we have to scout in order to save time and move forward.

While it is nice to have NT staffs contact every single USA owner, I hope my message helps you and all other owners understand the workload better, and make sure to use the resources provided to you guys (BB-mail, Discord, or even post something in the post I created on-site?) and reach out to us should you feel your player is being left off.


That's an incredible amount of work. What are your parameters for who gets a closer look?

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308441.52 in reply to 308441.47
Date: 3/29/2021 11:04:09 PM
Greensboro Generals
III.7
Overall Posts Rated:
746746
Since your player is currently 22 years old. I think I'm in the best position to speak to this.

1. The inefficiency of BB scouting is making it hard for us NT managers to contact all the players. Every offseason I have to manually add/drop 600+ players, 18 players at a time in order to complete the scouting in a limited amount of time, on top of the actual life schedule (work, family etc.)

2. As mentioned above, 12k salary at 22 years old likely didn't make the cut when I scout. We do what we can to limit the number of players we have to scout in order to save time and move forward.

While it is nice to have NT staffs contact every single USA owner, I hope my message helps you and all other owners understand the workload better, and make sure to use the resources provided to you guys (BB-mail, Discord, or even post something in the post I created on-site?) and reach out to us should you feel your player is being left off.


That's an incredible amount of work. What are your parameters for who gets a closer look?