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83152.42 in reply to 83152.41
Date: 4/8/2009 6:34:09 AM
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but you still forget that you could work with money to dominate easily even with the cap ;) Because it gives players who bring lot more effort for the same salary, and those wone will be your salary monsters.


Dominate easily even with the cap? I think that's seriously underestimating the competition. :)

Once you've reached the cap, you begin to work around this restriction be it tactics or multiskilled players. Then other teams will start reaching the cap, and the only thing separating you and them will be your ingenuity. There is only so much performance you can pack intoa player of a certain salary, and you will start experimenting with players of different skillsets to get what you want.

It has a dual effect as a medium for teams at the top to play on the same level and also promotes multiskilled players of different kinds.

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83152.43 in reply to 83152.42
Date: 4/8/2009 6:47:19 AM
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you underestimated the effect of the price of this player, and about training them yourself, means lot of playing out of position which is honestly bad for your succes - you could believe me there ;)

Ruining is succes to get superior in future was the target you like to avoid, and you need more then 2/3 of such players to counter the attack of money, so you need to have very very high amount of money to stay competive against a guy who takes the money on the bank account before he is attacking.

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83152.46 in reply to 83152.43
Date: 4/8/2009 8:19:24 AM
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I know about training out of position players, I've done it myself for my NT trainees but I cannot see the correlation between your post and the topic at hand. Sorry, today my brain is working a little too slowly from lack of sleep. I hope to rectify that in a bit. As it is, I feel like we're looking at the same page number from two different books.

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83152.47 in reply to 83152.45
Date: 4/8/2009 8:33:49 AM
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Hi Josef, was wondering when you'd come in. :)

Allow me to digress for a bit. I know the mechanics of salary optimization is like opening a can of worms. It's just so abstract and accurate data is hard to come by, heck the users can't even agree on how the salary-potential-skill axis works. And it is not for everyone, I'd point back to the 'Soft Cap' topic in Global as an example (Yes, I haunt that thread too and thoroughly enjoy the banter flying about).

Back to the topic, the choice to buy a certain player still remains up to the individual managers. If they choose to buy a ridiculously unbalanced 30 year old player with a skill total of 150 allocated primarily on skills that matter least for his position, it can be said that he will not as effectiive as those whose skills are allocated in a more effective manner. And if most of his skills matter least for his position, then it is safe to say that he is being played out of position. If that 30 year old was a Center and most of his skills were allocated on outside skills, I'd point out that he is not actually a Center but more of a SG or a SF.

How the managers choose to configure their teams and players, is up to them. You don't have to focus attention on the fine-tuning details of it. But if someone has spent countless hours experimenting with the side skills and found a killer tactic to synergize them, I'd have to hold my hands up and applaud him for smacking my team with a 40 point difference. And hope to exchange info later, of course.

From: Sparkle

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83152.49 in reply to 83152.48
Date: 4/8/2009 10:21:20 AM
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Is it just my eyes or does Player B's DR and PA exceed 20?

I have no problem with a hoarder buying players like these, after all if you spent so much time accumulating money you should be at least entitled to. What I have a problem with is a hoarder stacking 8 players like this into his/her team which will be beyond the club's economic means for a couple of seasons before selling them off. With a salary of 300K each and a salary cap, you can only stack a couple of them while still maintaining tactical flexibility.

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83152.51 in reply to 83152.50
Date: 4/8/2009 10:39:38 AM
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Ah, similar to HT then. I never actually hovered the tooltip over the legendary skill level. Learning something new everyday... :)

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83152.52 in reply to 83152.49
Date: 4/8/2009 11:16:29 AM
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I have no problem with a hoarder buying players like these, after all if you spent so much time accumulating money you should be at least entitled to. What I have a problem with is a hoarder stacking 8 players like this into his/her team which will be beyond the club's economic means for a couple of seasons before selling them off. With a salary of 300K each and a salary cap, you can only stack a couple of them while still maintaining tactical flexibility.


you could build those easily with 30k players, too with the different that all skills are weeker^^

And those players aren't cheap, and you have problems to build then yourself, without sacrifying your team for a long time which you try to avoid with your cap(and even then you just got a few of them), but the people will know that those players are superior and are willing to pay astronous sums for them and the team who get the money to buy 5-8 of them will dominate normal teams with ptb and man to man.

The difference betwenn the world without salary cap would be, that with salary cap you spend your money at the beginning, without you will spend your on the salary updates.

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