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the problem everyone is complaining about does not actually exist !
its a in game feature that was meant to happen once the majority of country users hit there teams "hidden" salary cap

the italian and spanish managers from what i can understand are upset that small country users earn more then they do
this is completely false

a div 1 aussie team will earn exactly the same net income as a div 1 italy team (consider arena the same ,etc)
how much profit they earn each week would be completely different though because italy has 5000 users and has essentially hit the salary cap in every div while australia has not even hit the salary cap in div 1
how ever teams in australia are moving towards the salary cap each season as each team betters there team in the hope of winning.

as i understand the complaints that are being raised here is that small countries get to much money for less competition , my response to that is so what ! , small countries will eventually l hit the salary cap as well and then will be in the same boat as you italian and spanish managers , at which point we wont complain as its meant to be like this , as la kukoc pointed out in a very well written response a few posts back.

my question to all the spanish and italian managers complaining in here is simple why should small countries have a lower net salary cap then bigger countries ? , why should we be disadvantaged compared to say italy and spain ? , why should we not be allowed to build up our div's to the same standards as italy or spain?

the answer is simple , we shouldnt be , we should be allowed the chance to raise the levels of our active leagues to the competiveness of the italian/spanish divisions.

edit ; can you explain me when you say "my cap is closer 500k"....???
Your incomes are 500k considering tv contract,palace and merchandising?

Yeah my income combined is can be close to 500k allowing me to have up to 500k player salaries if I wish.

I'm earning less than you... Even without considered the costs, to be in balance I can spend around 50k/week less than you. I've better players, the double capacity of the arena and my TV arena should be higher than you; we are playing in the same division, what's wrong?

Anyway the real pity is to not see any intervention of BBs (also throught GMs) when they see (they see?) a thread long hundreds posts. There are a lot of things to do, change the economy, change the team ratings, draft, random in the matches when you've to play always against a team that in the previous match faced a BOT and so on but the real problem in this game is the LACK of communication between the owners and the community

I'm not earning 500k yet. I'm only earning 425k at the moment. However, my arena can be expanded a lot more and my merchandise is currently 20k below league average. So once I expand my arena and get some local players I believe I will be earning about 500k income a week.

I didn't feel offended, don't worry ;)

Whew, thanx, I didn't want to speak roughly with one of the few comprehensive people just because I'm used to other kinds of comments.

edit ; can you explain me when you say "my cap is closer 500k"....???
Your incomes are 500k considering tv contract,palace and merchandising?

Yeah my income combined is can be close to 500k allowing me to have up to 500k player salaries if I wish.

I'm earning less than you... Even without considered the costs, to be in balance I can spend around 50k/week less than you. I've better players, the double capacity of the arena and my TV arena should be higher than you; we are playing in the same division, what's wrong?

Anyway the real pity is to not see any intervention of BBs (also throught GMs) when they see (they see?) a thread long hundreds posts. There are a lot of things to do, change the economy, change the team ratings, draft, random in the matches when you've to play always against a team that in the previous match faced a BOT and so on but the real problem in this game is the LACK of communication between the owners and the community

I'm not earning 500k yet. I'm only earning 425k at the moment. However, my arena can be expanded a lot more and my merchandise is currently 20k below league average. So once I expand my arena and get some local players I believe I will be earning about 500k income a week.

Believe me I didn't think we are "so close". I'm earning 450k/week, my merchandising is 21k/week below the average and arena brings me around 300k/week. I think now that maybe having an arena of 20k seats doesn't worth... Thanks for the info ;)

I only get about 270k from arena at the moment. hoping to get that up to at least 300 once ticket prices change.
Regardless of how the economy is in different places, this is still a fun game :)

I'm sure BB's read this thread. I'm also sure they understand that the global market actually has no influence on how your team competes in your country.
I actually can not understand what exactly is the problem. Big country teams are operating near "salary cap" <- this is actually what this game is about. You need to use that cap, getting the most skills out of your players. For example if you make 10k profit per week (taking the whole season into account) and your next player upgrade will cost 100k (hypothetically ofcourse, just for lower numbers). You buy that player after 10 weeks and sell your previous starter or backup for let's say 50k. Now if a "small country" team raises the bar of that player cost to 200k. Thus it takes you 20 weeks for that income to get the upgrade, the player that you sell will also bring in more cash. So basically nothing else changes but the game speed for your country and the "small country" users just raise the market price a little.

What you said in that post it's not true
I want to make you an example: a user thinks that his team has bad results,so he decides to blow up his team,and start from the low around some super trainee to rise again in some seasons with a stronger team.This user makes his counts about the future salaries of these super trainees with high potential and calculate:"if I'm promoted in X seasons in III division(let's say a division),I can continue to have them on my team and grow up".So he start to train his players,after some seasons is promoted in IV division,continue to improve his team and so on.He arrives at the X season,he has builded a great team,and he is fighting with a slightly better team to have home court advantage in the playoff and to be promoted.He has some money to spend to buy a player that can help him to have the home court advantage and be promoted;he finds the player that he needs on the market,but he has overpaid by a user of a small country that earns money because of their situation.So he lose the decisive match,he stays in IV division,he is forced to sell one of his trainees(losing a lot of merchandising),and he have to change drammatically his team and strategy,with unkonwn results,and is surely slowered in his course....it could be relegated a too strong team for a III division,so while he is adjusting his team he had still to stay in the Iv division,and he doesn't know when he could have the chance to rise again(maybe in the next season,maybe not)

So,it's false that TL has no influence on the completition in our country,instead with a so levelled competition,TL has great influence on how the team plays in our and in the other countries.And the situation doesn't affect all in the same way,because not all the users have the same strategy.Returning to my example,the strategy of the team that I wrote,is the strategy of A TEAM,NOT OF ALL THE TEAMS.The team that beats "our team" in the example,could not have the money to answer to the purchase of the new player by "our team",that save money during the time,because he could choose the strategy to be promoted soon without save money.So,while the general situation could appear the same,bad for all,it affects the teams in very different ways,and the strong general disadvantage on the market,could damage some teams more than the others.And the differences in the economical situation between competitive-non competitive countries(big-small),reflecting on the GLOBAL market where everyone had to buy and sell players,reflects on the competition in our country and in the way a user can manage his team succesfully or not,and not in the same way for all


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Last edited by Steve Karenn at 8/20/2010 6:05:19 AM

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When you talk in other posts about unbalance that insert money in the bigger countries would create in the BBB competition,I answer you that I don't care nothing about BBB,because few teams can play in this competition,and I'm still not at the level to care about it.But in the BBB goes the team of top divisions(championship or cup winners),and as I and many many other users wrote to you in hundred of posts,the economic problems are not in the top division,when the situation is becoming similar in many countries,but the lack of money strikes the users of the medium-low divisions of the bigger countries,that have to suffer for the high expenses/low incomes situation.

A change in the economical system,doesn't mean that you have forcedly to put money in the top division,so changing the equilibrium in the BBB.I yet did my proposal to change economical system in the previous posts
I repeat again here,if you not see it.everybody is free to comment

At the time,there's a maximum income that you can have in a country if you are in the top division that is X,mainly did by arena incomes.In the low division,this max is diminuished of a different percentage depending on the level of the league,in the same way in all the countries.For example,let's say that in the III division the max amount of money that you can gain from arena is X-50%.
My proposal is to change this percentage in different ways in the various country based on competition,for example while in Eesti the difference between I and III division remains X-50%,in spain this difference became X-30%;so who is in the top division can have almost the same money in all the first divisions of all the countries,fighting with the same possibilitiess in BBB,who is in the low divisions of small countries would have the same actual economical situation that allows them to gain money,and who has more troubles now in the bigger countries,would have a better economical situation,with more possibilities to reach the to than the actual,without damagin the team that are at the top now

then what happens when these teams hit there new salary cap ?
they come back here and complain again ?

the game is working how its intended.

the game is working how its intended.

then the game is not working well

how so?

teams are hitting there salary caps for the div there in, the challange is to get more out of your players then your opponents do.