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From: Bballin
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219902.43 in reply to 219902.42
Date: 6/13/2012 1:53:24 PM
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This thread has completely gone offtopic. The suggestion has to do with pick n roll offense being added to BB, not how common injuries are or aren't and whether or not basketball is the most dangerous sport or if 270lbs is fat.

Just saying.

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219902.44 in reply to 219902.43
Date: 6/13/2012 2:05:54 PM
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On topic, I can see a lot of flaws of this being a set offense, rather than an incorporated play-set in a pre-existing tactic that happens periodically.

I would more rather see set coaching tactics for final 2 minutes that are different from previous 46.

with pick and roll as a set offensive tactic. What would determine it being successful or not? A player fighting through the screen, or getting caught up in it? If the player shoots it himself, or dishes to the guy that set the pick?

would 5'9 PGs playing out of position, or even not, set effective picks against 7'5 guys then have the ball passed to them to hit a 15 ft jumper? Would you question how a 6'1 sg passed past a 6'4 sg to a 5'9 guy that just picked him, and shook his 6'1 defender as well?

Would the players run into picks more with less experience? Would experience effect how many picks they run into period? etc. etc. etc.

And I stress again. High Post? Back-door? where is the pick and roll going?

Will it look like LeBron in Cleveland? Will it look like Lob city in LA? Will it look like Phil JAckson's Triangle?

From: Koperboy

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219902.46 in reply to 219902.39
Date: 6/14/2012 2:07:13 AM
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I am risking a lot ot not do the surgury but a few different circumstances have made me avoid it.


I torn my...hm, side ligaments, is this the same as ACL? Anyway, I had a surgery and I don't regret it at all, as the knee has been great since. Of course not as a healthy knee, but far away from troubles you are describing. The most I had was some swelling after games of basketball. I just had to watch some 200+ pounds guy didn't lean on me too much when boxing out. But running or other sports without sudden movements - no problem at all.

The doctors are an issue though...in Slovenia there are a lot of skiers, so a lot of doctors specialize in knee surgery and I've been operated by one of the best in Slovenia. But I've heard some stories of not so successful knee surgeries and they can really make your life worse, so I can understand your fear.

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From: Koperboy

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219902.48 in reply to 219902.47
Date: 6/14/2012 3:09:46 AM
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Oh I see...so even though I injured my knee, I guess I was lucky it was side tendons and not ACL.

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219902.50 in reply to 219902.49
Date: 6/16/2012 11:18:57 PM
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I believe GE should be based on NBA rather than on basketball on lower levels. Without NBA, basketball would be as popular as volleyball, and although I like volleyball, I don't believe as many people would wanna play a manager game based on it.
I think people who use the argument of "basketball isn't just NBA" always use it as an excuse for anything in BB GE that doesn't make sense.
I'm yet to see a defensive 3 sec violation.
There's hardly any switching in m2m, so I don't think there's pick'n'roll inside GE already as some believe.
Ok, you choose "P'n'R offense" and your opponent chooses zone, what happens then? Will you be shooting 3s in late clock all game long?

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219902.51 in reply to 219902.50
Date: 6/17/2012 12:09:59 AM
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I believe GE should be based on NBA rather than on basketball on lower levels. Without NBA, basketball would be as popular as volleyball, and although I like volleyball, I don't believe as many people would wanna play a manager game based on it.
I think people who use the argument of "basketball isn't just NBA" always use it as an excuse for anything in BB GE that doesn't make sense.
I'm yet to see a defensive 3 sec violation.
There's hardly any switching in m2m, so I don't think there's pick'n'roll inside GE already as some believe.
Ok, you choose "P'n'R offense" and your opponent chooses zone, what happens then? Will you be shooting 3s in late clock all game long?


College basketball was quite popular... still is... So the first 2 sentences... I don't entirely agree with.

I agree about defensive 3 seconds. Course, we don't even have a "proper" shot clock violation...
I've seen "some" switching, but no, its not a regular thing, it looks like "so and so, rotates over to help defend the play..." I've seen it in M2M, (since I don't use zone defenses). There are some pick and rolls occasionally. But Your last 2 sentences. GREAT points.

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219902.52 in reply to 219902.50
Date: 6/17/2012 12:10:30 AM
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There's hardly any switching in m2m, so I don't think there's pick'n'roll inside GE already as some believe.
I see switching quite often, actually. It doesn't say that it happens, but when my C shoots over their SG, I'm guessing that a switch has happened.

Ok, you choose "P'n'R offense" and your opponent chooses zone, what happens then? Will you be shooting 3s in late clock all game long?
This would be ideal. It helps for people to be more careful about which strategies they choose. It would be better, though, if you could choose a range (or backup) of strategies, rather than just one. Obviously, this would take up developer time, though, and we all know that there is so much other stuff for the BBs to work on...





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