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278164.43 in reply to 278164.42
Date: 4/5/2016 7:37:54 AM
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Every serious team have players with PA, and about JR we could discuss, it's not that much discovered, cos I think I never saw a shooter with 19-20 JS JR IS.

Btw no one have players without any JR, just it's not good enough like other skills.

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Date: 4/5/2016 1:27:33 PM
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Mordors team was not balanced? Enough for me.
He could play every off tactic with those players.

All guys who think otherwise, who think LI/LP is not over power, outside off can beat inside normal, I wish them best of luck, keep watching the Inside dominance.

Most NT-s force the Inside tactic too.

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Date: 4/5/2016 2:48:40 PM
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Mordors team was not balanced? Enough for me.
He could play every off tactic with those players.

The player with the most JR on his team was listed as a Power Forward and had a JR level of 10.

He only had one player with PA above 12.

His highest JS skill on a player was 17 but it was a player he used at Power Forward, other than that only one player had a JS level over 15.

But, no, yeah, I'm sure all of that would have been just as good as his IS levels of 19, 17, 17, 17, 17, and 17.

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Date: 4/5/2016 3:08:37 PM
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Mordors team was not balanced? Enough for me.
He could play every off tactic with those players.


Of course he could play every tactic, but could he play them efficient and be succesful with it? You said above that outside tactics are too weak on a high level of competition. If you take a team like Mordor as an example this is true. He could play another tactic. but he would not be as successful with it.

You isolate the weakness of outside tactics as the reason.
The others propose that it is because of the skillset of his players.

In both cases it seems reasonable to think that LI is dominant.. for you because it is just stronger, for trainerman because of the imbalance of OD. for others because the players we have on the market and in highlevel teams are made for LI. also there are possible reasons for a lack of highskilled outside players. We haven't seen many teams that tried to play with other tactics than LI on a high level. that is because there are not as many players. on the other hand there are not so many players because nt many teams try...it is a circle. and of course we have the hypothesis that LI Players are easier to train than outside oriented players.

whatever. i just want to point out that you are not necessarily disussing the same subject.

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278164.48 in reply to 278164.46
Date: 4/5/2016 3:47:41 PM
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You sure about that? You have pics of the players?

Btw you think you just need IS to be beast in Inside tactic, dude, you're playing a wrong game I guess.

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Date: 4/5/2016 3:54:24 PM
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You sure about that? You have pics of the players?

Yes. Not sure they are allowed on the forums? I'll post a sample in my next post and if it gets deleted then we'lll know.

Btw you think you just need IS to be beast in Inside tactic, dude, you're playing a wrong game I guess.

Never said that, but you seem intent on belittling others in just about every other post you make. My point was that his team was 110% geared towards inside play. If he had tried to run Motion none of his players would have had the ability to score one on one the way they did in a LI offense.

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278164.50 in reply to 278164.47
Date: 4/5/2016 3:57:44 PM
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You can't make an over power shooter, even if you have one, they don't shoot well. One guy had 20-19 JS/JR players or similar, they shoot as sh*t. Not much batter then "normal" modern PG/SG for today Inside tactic, I don't like that fact.

No need for me to discuss, I just said what I think, based on my BB experience and facts, and you guys talk based on theories, myths, experiments, someone said something, you have seen it somewhere, you have read that, you saw that, and etc.

(http://pokit.org/get/img/878a1f63eb346b5444356f1c64f81009...)

Is this an Inside monster? NO

Buy 7-8 similar players like this (few better skills for primary positions) and win the B3, I will prove it, just when I rebuild my team. Cos it's the only thing I have not done on BB.

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Date: 4/5/2016 3:58:37 PM
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(http://i.imgur.com/eKe1yi7.png)
Here's Javier Chaperon, Mordors SG in the final game.

He's probably one of the most outside oriented players on Mordors old roster, yet he has 3 PA and 9 JR. He's not meant to anything other than drive to the hoop 1v1 and score inside.

It worked. Clearly. He's one of the best players in the game. But versatile? Oh no.

(http://i.imgur.com/0x5SWWV.png)

Mordor's PG. I believed he was bred to be a D switcher as players like Xiofa (Played PF or Mordor in season 31) had 20 OD but played at PF.

Again, this player is meant to do one thing - drive inside on offense. He has little passing, and no jump range.

Last edited by Chekreyes at 4/5/2016 4:04:22 PM

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278164.52 in reply to 278164.50
Date: 4/5/2016 4:41:39 PM
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maybe you are right. I dont want to argue with you. I am just tired of this argument that promotes structural LI dominance on the basis that LI is dominant at the moment (and probably because of player builds).

just one more thing:

You can't make an over power shooter, even if you have one, they don't shoot well. One guy had 20-19 JS/JR players or similar, they shoot as sh*t


vs.

Btw you think you just need IS to be beast in Inside tactic, dude, you're playing a wrong game I guess.


Last edited by jonte at 4/5/2016 4:42:05 PM

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Date: 4/5/2016 4:56:28 PM
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Didn't saw earlier that he had 3 PA, unbelievable for me, can't believe it.

Those players look to me just like SF-s, dunno, every has his own style to play, seems like LI is dominant last 20 seasons, I'm holding on this and will keep going on that way.

This is where we hold them!
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