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1442.44 in reply to 1442.42
Date: 10/4/2007 7:50:08 AM
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I have a question or two for you in return, Oxidus. Since there are 14 computer-managed teams in my division, how do they make their draft selections? Are they completely random? Or do computer teams somehow "use" the draft points their previous human owners may have allotted?


The draft list for each team in a division is different, it's jumbled so managers don't compare notes with their friends. As far as I know, the bots pick in the order their list is presented to them.

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1442.45 in reply to 1442.44
Date: 10/4/2007 10:07:14 AM
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Bots and unattended teams do exactly that (pick in the random order that is presented to them)

For the players that I have got no scouting information on I put after my 4 star players as I have a 3/5 chance they will be 3 or above.

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1442.46 in reply to 1442.45
Date: 10/4/2007 10:55:09 AM
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Bots and unattended teams do exactly that (pick in the random order that is presented to them)

For the players that I have got no scouting information on I put after my 4 star players as I have a 3/5 chance they will be 3 or above.


smart cookie!

I've a similar order, except I didn't exactly know why I did it that way.

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1442.47 in reply to 1442.46
Date: 10/4/2007 11:49:06 AM
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Yeah i did the same too.

I figure a 3 star player is pretty average so why not gamble for the 5 star in amongst those unknowns!

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1442.48 in reply to 1442.45
Date: 10/4/2007 2:25:46 PM
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For the players that I have got no scouting information on I put after my 4 star players as I have a 3/5 chance they will be 3 or above


Your 3/5 chance assumes that the players are equally distributed between 1-5. Is this what is actually observed in reality?

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1442.49 in reply to 1442.48
Date: 10/4/2007 2:54:09 PM
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Good point. If we can already see the majority of the 4's and 5's, our chances of landing a 3 or better are diminished.

Here's what I've got from my scouts:

Nine 5's
Three 4's
Five 3's
Nine 2's
Two 1's

I wonder if each grade of player is alloted nine players, and then 3 more random guys are tossed in to give us the 48 players in the draft. Would a BB like to comment?

If that's the case, (and that's a big IF) I've got a better chance to get a 1 than a 4, but a better chance to get a 4 than a 3.

Anyone else get more than 9 in one grade of player?

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Date: 10/4/2007 3:15:49 PM
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1442.51 in reply to 1442.49
Date: 10/4/2007 3:32:56 PM
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Good point. If we can already see the majority of the 4's and 5's, our chances of landing a 3 or better are diminished.

Here's what I've got from my scouts:

Nine 5's
Three 4's
Five 3's
Nine 2's
Two 1's

I wonder if each grade of player is alloted nine players, and then 3 more random guys are tossed in to give us the 48 players in the draft. Would a BB like to comment? :)

If that's the case, (and that's a big IF) I've got a better chance to get a 1 than a 4, but a better chance to get a 4 than a 3.

Anyone else get more than 9 in one grade of player?


I don't know if that's a fair question. For those teams that "owned" their teams all season, and could scout the whole season, you should have more "visible" ratings. Those of us who have only been here for 5-6 weeks or less, may have fewer visibles. Of my 48 slots, I have 27 with some rating and 10 with all four columns with data.
I have eleven 5's (four with A+ grades), six 4's, five 3's, three 2's, and two 1's...that leaves 21 "unknowns"...

the way I understand it, is depending on how much was invested in scouting by the other 15 teams in my series, we should have the same "players", but different information on each slot. Some might see slot "1", some might not. With so many 5's visible to me, I'm guessing that the majority of the "unknowns" are going to be 2's and 1's. I would imagine the distribution of the 5 start levels is probably similar across each series, but I would hope that it isn't equally divided among the 5. That doesn't seem too realistic (not that it has to be!!). With eleven 5's for me, that exceeds the "avg." of 9.6 for each star ranking (48/5=9.6), so there should be a significant number of the "unknowns" down at the bottom of the ranking scale in my series......

Again, because of the differences in scouting budgets, etc. every team is going to have different data visible. You just have to use a little logic and common sense to figure out where to rank those "unknown" players........

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1442.52 in reply to 1442.49
Date: 10/4/2007 4:11:49 PM
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I think it would be interesting to see if anyone had rankings for all of their players. More interesting if two people had rankings for all of their players, so we could get an idea of the variations that are possible.

I got 36 players ranked.
Eight 5s
Seven 4s
Ten 3s
Nine 2s
Two 1s

Also, for those interested, here are the 10 grades I have:
One A+
One A
Two B+
One C+
One C
Three C-
One D

From: raonne
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1442.54 in reply to 1442.53
Date: 10/5/2007 12:05:09 AM
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I believe the quantity of players available with each level is different, and possibly random (with probably certain boundries). Just to continue helping everyone's analisys, I invested on scouting 3 players per week the whoel season and I got:

8 fives
9 fours
5 unknown
8 threes
14 twos (absurd !!!)
4 ones

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