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I see what you are saying but I have to disagree.

Playing in D2 even against bots as you claim and bad managers still pull in more revenue than D4. Now for examples sake, I was pulling in 250k net a week easily when I got promoted into D2. Assuming a conservative side accounting for more bot teams, lets say 200k a week. (although technically the difference should not matter as much as income takings is more aligned to your position on the table and the opponent you are playing rather than the fact a team is bot)

This is still significantly more than D4. In D4, a good manager will be able to pull in 70k net a week or so. You just can't compare the divisions. Negating the effects of training, and day trading, etc, over the course of a 14 week season a D2 team would be able to pull in 200,000 x 14 = 2.8 mill while a D4 team would pull in 70,000 X 14 = 980k.

As a D2 team, you are still almost 2 mill better off and looking at your roster and how low your salaries are, I would guess that you can easily pull over 200k a week. In fact from your arena, just your last home game you made 200k. Good luck trying to make that in a home game in D4.


The chunk of change you get for promotion is minimal. Thats like an extra week of income. Hardly makes up for the 2 mill difference in income you get over a course of a season.

I don't think there is a point trying to compare manager skill levels. We all play the game differently and have had different paths in reaching their current state. But you are right. Lets get off this discussion and go back to the original topic :)

Can we access the draft now?

Not yet, but soon.

Can we have a look at what YOU are making??

The average tell squat all as it includes all the bot teams which would drag the averages down.

You DO have a great advantage starting in D2. You got to look at YOUR team and not the bot included AVERAGE!

I'm in division II in a relatively small country.

This is what i'm making:

Baseline Weekly Economy
Expenses Revenue
Player Salaries: $ 101 025 Attendance: $ 160 150
Staff Salaries: $ 45 087 Merchandise: $ 39 557
Scouting: $ 20 000 TV Contract: $ 81 864
Total: $ 166 112 Total: $ 281 571
Typical Weekly Net Income: $ 115 459

That is fairly decent. You have the potential to make a bit more once your arena expansion is complete.

What I was getting at is the fact that starting in D2 is better than starting in D4.

115k is nice but I can see a lot of ability to make a lot more. Can easily make 250k+ provided your player salaries don't explode.

It is far better than a D4 team where you would make 50k-70k a week.

I know what you meant. Wasn't agreeing or disagreeing with you. Merely sharing my revenues since wolph was reluctant to :)

Its a give and take thing mate.

I'm telling you a lot of us in the smaller countries would give a fair amount to be playing against active players rather than bots.

Last edited by Simply Vince at 8/23/2010 9:12:26 AM

Interesting . . . am in Div III and I have:

Player Salaries:$ 184 197 Attendance: $ 210 331
Staff Salaries: $ 65 172 Merchandise: $ 37 449
Scouting: $ 40 000 TV Contract: $ 82 306

Total: $ 289 369 Total: $ 330 086
Typical Weekly Net Income: $ 40 717

May as well post this again.

Baseline Weekly Economy
Expenses Revenue
Player Salaries: $ 124 515 Attendance: $ 182 454
Staff Salaries: $ 40 775 Merchandise: $ 35 007
Scouting: $ 5 000 TV Contract: $ 74 502
Total: $ 170 290 Total: $ 291 963
Typical Weekly Net Income: $ 121 673

League Averages from Last Week
Expenses Revenue
Player Salaries: $ 109 396 Attendance: $ 142 023
Staff Salaries: $ 66 542 Merchandise: $ 34 118
Scouting: $ 11 666 TV Contract: $ 74 502
Total: $ 187 604 Total: $ 250 643
League Average Net Income: $ 63 039

I'll give you Japan II.1 averages. Then you give me averages in your divisions.

AVERAGE
Attendance 89k
Merch 29k
TV 80K
salaries-
60K
staff 39K
scouting 13K

Average NET income in Japan- 84K

Ok so I have a HUUUGE advantage being in a league that the average teams nets 84K ... NOT

That aint even barely a million a year. And you are saying I have a 2million a season advantage?

Now what are the averages for division II in Australia?, III and IV as well?

When you enter the game you have so few seats you can't make much more than like 150K even if you sell out at max price. Its a must to build seats, in any country. At a certain point you raise prices over building, depending on how far you can promote. I agree with you there is a balance to consider how much building versus personel improvements to promote and have seats for the right league to play in. Obviously this is about who you ahve to beat to promote and what kind of attendance you can get in target league, so varying by country to an extent.

So for me I am just tryign to have a good enough team to promote, and the rest of my money goes to expansion or banked. I also avoiding high salary players to increase banking of funds, just good enough to beat the next best team is my goal.
back on topic though, having some more info/idea on how the draft will work and what I can get out if it definitely plays a role in my future planning and financial management, as it does for everyone I am sure.

hahaha that is dodgy as. Giving league averages that you know are way off what you are making just to try and prove a point that isn't even right lol.
You made OVER 200k in your last home game. And you could be making a lot more if your prices were set better.
And you give us the league average with 89k listed.
Your merchandise might even be higher as well.
But just on arena alone that is more 110k over the league average.
So you are making about 200k profit a week.
14 weeks * 200 = 2.8 million.
Way way way more than a division 4 team could make.
And that is 200k minimum, you could probably make closer to 250k or higher with correct arena prices etc.