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161502.44 in reply to 161502.43
Date: 10/18/2010 9:53:22 PM
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I think Kukoc has made a very valuble point. It seems as if the people most upset with the down turn in the economy are those who rely most heavily on it, 'day traders'. As has been stated by several others the BB economy is a part of the game in which you need to do some quality planning. Players are like stocks and have a fluctuating price based on supply and demand. The fact of the matter is that day traders are going to be the people who suffer the most from such an economy as they are likely stuck with high priced mono-skilled players who have taken tremendous hits to their market value. Buy low sell high has hit a bit of a stumbling block, it happens and is part of the risk people choosing to play the game that way take. Should we pity them?? Not a chance!!

Teams such as mine are going to be just fine. I have trained 80% of my players and built them so thet they have retained value. The players that I have purchased have been very calculated buys, and I am certain that they will fetch similar to what I purchased them for, if not more. Being a team that promoted thru the ranks very quickly, I can assure you that the method I have used works. Training from within is a proven theory that is about to pay off in the current BB economy, I suspect this is a big part of the BB's plan. This is a mangement stratagy game not a game where those who capitalize(take advantage of) the market should be rewarded.

FTW I am currently training bigs and realize that one of my current centers is worth a very low price on the market. Becasue of that I will choose not to sell him, it is really quite simple. And yes there is a very decent chance that I will be demoted back down to division II, but I have built in such a way that it will not crush my team.

Plan and develop a different stratagy that includes quality players and you will all be just fine!!

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161502.46 in reply to 161502.44
Date: 10/18/2010 11:50:17 PM
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Teams such as mine are going to be just fine. I have trained 80% of my players and built them so thet they have retained value.


Please do not take this the wrong way but how did you train 80% of your players. Did you train since season 8 first guards for 3 seasons then bigs for 2 seasons - That is some very good training. Just curious as I am under the, maybe mistaken, impression that you have to train either guards or bigs but not both to develop high quality players. Any help you can give would be appreciated.

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161502.47 in reply to 161502.32
Date: 10/19/2010 3:25:46 AM
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Sorry to disturb you :D

So what do you think about the near future? I thought we had the lowest prices last season but I was wrong.
Then do you think BBs have to correct this situation or is ok?

This economy is quite interesting for me I did bad choices so for sure I'm in trouble until something will not change but today no one day trader can make easy money and is hard to find the best compromise between salary and competitivity.
From the other side the market is frozen and this is not "fun" and, personal opinion, training seems not so good as in the past under the point of view of entrance when you sell a player.


I think we head further down. (price wise)

For me its not just about wage its about the winning - if you want to win you have to push the boundaries to the limit. If you are the only team that wants to win in a division / country then you are fine as you won't have to max out your roster to achieve your goal. As each country matures you expect to see at least 2 potential or capable winning teams.

Winning can be achieved by;

Simply being better on court (better tactician or trainer)
Being better off court (consistently more arena income or cash reserves)
Short term value of players to raise cash on the Transfer Market.

You can make a run at a tournament by dipping into your cash reserves to give you a competitive edge. In a lot of countries & BB3 there is likely always 1 or 2 kamikaze teams that want 1 last shot of personal glory before quitting. So when there is more than 1 team trying to win, you have to max out your resources.

So if you aren't one of these teams what do you do?

Do you keep anyone over 26 with $150k+ wage? (over 2million a season) - Will you lose 2million in arena/income from not having such a person on your roster?
Become a cup specialist? Reserve your best 5 for a deep cup run, tieing in your league, training efficiently & effectively giving yourself a 1 week gameweek.
Lower your wages early in the season and then time and make a run to finish in the best position for you as you see how your league is developing. (Do you finish 4th and buy players ahead of the play-off because you believe you can win or 6th and crush your opponent in a best of 3)

I also think there is a trade off between prices and features in the game.

Players worry about spending because they have only a few trophies available to them. League + Cup.
If there was a BB3 equivalent for all Division 2 winners or Division 3 winners (Division 4/5 would be too many teams) - this would encourage promotion and also you would imagine encourage more teams to fiercely compete at all costs. If the first time you promoted up to a new division you got a much higher cash incentive (promote, relegate, promote would not give you the same cash prize) you would give those teams a better chance of surviving in the next league up.

Just these type of things alone would shift the mentality of the average player to be more aggressive and when there is more at stake there are more variables to consider and strategies to undertake.

To conclude, as great as the game is right now, it still needs more variables and I used to say this should be reflected in player values and on the transfer list - as this is not going to be the case, create more tournaments, change the promotion/relegation rewards & penalties and I believe this will add much needed stimulus to the long term user base.


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161502.48 in reply to 161502.47
Date: 10/19/2010 4:30:44 AM
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500 posts later....

There is a problem.
There isn't a problem.
There is a problem.
There isn't a problem.

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161502.50 in reply to 161502.47
Date: 10/19/2010 6:31:19 AM
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To conclude, as great as the game is right now, it still needs more variables and I used to say this should be reflected in player values and on the transfer list - as this is not going to be the case, create more tournaments, change the promotion/relegation rewards & penalties and I believe this will add much needed stimulus to the long term user base.


Oh thanks god, you said it all, great conclusion ยก

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161502.51 in reply to 161502.46
Date: 10/19/2010 8:39:34 AM
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Please do not take this the wrong way but how did you train 80% of your players. Did you train since season 8 first guards for 3 seasons then bigs for 2 seasons - That is some very good training. Just curious as I am under the, maybe mistaken, impression that you have to train either guards or bigs but not both to develop high quality players. Any help you can give would be appreciated


In order to remain on topic, I have sent you a BB mail. You will see that I have trained the majority of my players from day 1. I believe 6 or 7 of my players have been trained begining as 18 year olds. The bottom line is training works and can be the ground work of a dominating team.

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161502.52 in reply to 161502.41
Date: 10/19/2010 10:54:11 AM
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You can't make people pay you more money just because you think now is the best time to rebuild.

But all the game strategy can't be based on the fact that you are lucky/unlucky in your team rebuiliding timing
I think that the fact there are few money on the market,make larger the difference between who has the luck to find a noob that pay a lot for a your adversary player and who is unlucky,just because it's so difficult to make money

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161502.54 in reply to 161502.52
Date: 10/19/2010 12:12:17 PM
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Luck is a part of this game, but choosing a time to rebuild has nothing to do with luck. Ofcourse BB can not be constant throughout all seasons. There will be better/worse times to do certain things. No need to complain.

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