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169604.44 in reply to 169604.42
Date: 1/23/2011 12:36:27 PM
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Allright, let me check again. I will get back to you guys.


Thanks. At the moment, this situation is too absurd... I will go bankrupt unless my STH will return normalcy.:s
This state is quite unfair.. :s

From: ranic

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169604.45 in reply to 169604.44
Date: 1/23/2011 2:56:06 PM
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The same here. I'll go bankrupt reall soon without getting any funds. Went from 4000 to 995 in STH and after the update went up to 1350, half from the worst team in the league...
13 Seasons will go down the drain. such a pitty.

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169604.46 in reply to 169604.35
Date: 1/23/2011 4:28:48 PM
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Yes, it's by design that relegated teams take an extra hit since we don't want to make it too easy to promote back. Otherwise the same teams will stay in the same leagues even more than now.


Seeing it in the other side... for promoted teams... we have a lot less than the average league.... so you want to make it easy to go back to our older league?... with this economic disadvantage...
you should try to give a bit more as a measure of trying to equilibrate with the powerfull teams

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169604.47 in reply to 169604.46
Date: 1/23/2011 6:03:23 PM
Hebraica Macabi
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Don´t know if it is normal, but I have 3159 on Div. I.

I had almost 4000 on other seasons on Div. I

And of course many times the payroll of the past...

Ouch.

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From: MOS

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169604.49 in reply to 169604.42
Date: 1/24/2011 11:52:03 AM
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I am going bankrupt as well. Now I am in II division and there is no way to be competitive if my incomes are 30 or 40% of II division averages. My incomes are lowers than some IV division teams' incomes. It has no sense!

I can understand that you are trying to complicate the live of descended teams but this is unreasonable. Now we can not be competitives. We are not playing in same conditions than the rest of the teams.

I am not going to sell nobody. I have done a reasonable roaster for II division and I refuse to play in poorer conditions without any sense. So, if the bankrupt arrives... bye bye Buzzerbeater.

And I love this game, I have been playing for a long time, I have been promoted from V to I division, I have win a World Cup with Spain, I have been GM... and in all this time I have never seen something like this.

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169604.50 in reply to 169604.49
Date: 1/24/2011 11:56:21 AM
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To the few posters above, as much as we regret the troubles there's never a single cause for bankruptcy. The game, and the economy of the game, is that dynamic that you are fooling nobody but yourself when naming a single cause for going bankrupt.

We are still looking into this matter, though.

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 1/24/2011 11:56:58 AM

From: MOS

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169604.51 in reply to 169604.50
Date: 1/24/2011 11:58:32 AM
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Sorry, this is not true. In my situation, now, there would be only one cause. Give me the average incomes (or 80% of the averages) and i will survive without any problem.

From: BB-Patrick

To: MOS
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169604.52 in reply to 169604.51
Date: 1/24/2011 12:04:55 PM
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It is true. In your specific situation, you spend almost 17 million on transfers over the last 1,5 month. And that's just since the start of december. That's quite some assets you have in your club. There is just never a single cause for bankruptcy, it may be one of the larger reasons for your financial troubles, but hey just selling off one of the 17M transfers and you're safe again.

In other cases teams seem to have 3 to 4 times the league average in staff salaries, or twice the average players salaries etc etc.

Really, an unexpected drop in revenues may be a large reason, but it can be just one of the many causes that influence your specific economy leading to bankruptcy.

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169604.53 in reply to 169604.52
Date: 1/24/2011 1:26:02 PM
Brezel Speyer
III.9
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I don't think it is fair that relegated teams (as mine) have around 50% of the STH league average.
Moreover, that does not seem to be a very realistic model.
I wonder where and when this change has been announced - I must have missed it.

From: MOS

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169604.54 in reply to 169604.52
Date: 1/24/2011 2:40:51 PM
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I am not agree, Patrick ;).

Mi specific situation is this:

* I have been playing for 11 seasons without no economical trouble. I think that I have never been in negative situation.
* At the 13th season I decided to take a break. I was so busy in my real life and I needed a break. So I did.
* Then, I sold all my players at 0$ and I didn't compete in the 14th season. Obviously I went to II with only one victory in the last match.
* This last weeks in I division I have been buying a new roaster. I have done it after talking to II division managers and doing big calculations. I studied the probable new situation and I desinged a team for win money everyweek... Not too mutch, maybe 50K or something like this. Yes I spend 17 million... because I can. Because I have them. Because I spend them carefully, making a cheap roaster.
* The people in II win more than 250K per week in the matches and more than 55K in the shop. I need two matches for winning it and I win 33K in mi shop.

So, if I would have reasonable incomings I won't have no economic trouble. So, my hipothetical bankrupt only have a reason: I am not playing in the same conditions than the rest of the teams in my division. I am losing 145K per week because this unreasonable "rule".


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