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217393.44 in reply to 217393.43
Date: 6/8/2012 5:01:05 PM
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And they're probably not doing it because nobody wants to pay the huge Center salary those 6-8 extra pops commands.

My quick estimate says that 8 extra big man skill pops on Maja would immediately double his salary from $154,000 to over $300,000. And in turn, he becomes both harder to balance a roster around and a far less desireable commodity on the transfer wire (assuming his guard skills aren't as strong now).

Last edited by Beener not Beanerz at 6/8/2012 5:02:47 PM

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217393.45 in reply to 217393.44
Date: 6/8/2012 5:29:07 PM
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Wow, you leave for two days and you find 20 interesting messages in the NT page.

Last edited by olanipekun at 6/8/2012 5:29:16 PM

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217393.46 in reply to 217393.40
Date: 6/8/2012 6:04:09 PM
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Please explain...

Have a look at the NT players above and tell me if you would rather have Moran or the Polish PF posted? They have the same salary, but are not comparable!!



That's not what I was saying. Remember I was the guy that pointed out how much I disliked Moran's skill set earlier this week. ;) I was trying to say that a somewhat mono-skilled player with the high salary has more value to the NT than he does to a club team simply because the NT doesn't have to pay his ridiculous salary. I'm definitely not trying to say that a mono-skilled player is more valuable than a multi-skilled player with a similar salary or even a lower salary.

As for your theory on multi skilled players being able to play different tactics and move around the lineup, I'm in full agreement.

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217393.47 in reply to 217393.46
Date: 6/8/2012 6:16:46 PM
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in summary (i threw this together in 2mins, and its been a long work day trying to jam BB into breaks.... if i sound retarded, its probably because i am lol)

a) mono-skilled players (19-20s) with useless secondaries (1-3s) = no real use
b) mono-skilled players (19-20s) with some secondaries (4-5s) = worth a shot but only at NT levels
c) biased primaries (~18s) with decent secondaries (5-8s) = salary is an issue at club level but useful at NT level
d) good primaries (16-17s) and good secondaries (9-10s) = the gains with secondaries couldve been better used at primaries
d) insufficient primaries (15 or less) due to over trained secondaries (11-12s) = looks like we got a SF here lol


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217393.48 in reply to 217393.47
Date: 6/8/2012 6:46:55 PM
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a) Junk!
b) These type of players are simply not good enough! Unfortunately it is what we have on the current team.
c) Salary should not be an issue with teams in the first and second divisions.
d) With a small amount of research you will find that these are the type of players on the best teams. They have very high transfer values with relatively affordable salaries. I have been lucky to see some of the top players in the BB World and this is how they are built.
e) Well that would be a nice problem to have :)

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217393.49 in reply to 217393.48
Date: 6/8/2012 7:18:13 PM
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i would think players in the d) category is a cause and effect thing as well
there is only so much time to develop a player... and a team can only afford so much salary

so in the end, as discussed in this thread previously, teams will take the few pops in primary for a few more pops in secondary for salary considerations

not to say these players arent better, but just as another factor, its also due to time and budget constraints

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217393.50 in reply to 217393.49
Date: 6/8/2012 7:41:45 PM
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Don't we have scouts on the National Team to look out for Canadian players at home and abroad?

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217393.51 in reply to 217393.49
Date: 6/8/2012 7:43:20 PM
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Time is a huge factor. Ask a guy like RiP how long he has trained Essa Abu-Kaleel for? I am guessing it is 7 seasons at least.

Maja took 7 seasons and that was starting out very poorly as I had no clue what I was doing :)

To train a good NT player takes at least 6 full seasons of commited training.

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217393.52 in reply to 217393.37
Date: 6/8/2012 7:43:56 PM
Lawrence Park Panthers
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We lack commited trainers that will train a player into their mid to late 20's focusing on creating unique and balanced builds.


Funny coming from a guy who stopped training Momar when? Lol

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217393.53 in reply to 217393.43
Date: 6/8/2012 7:46:33 PM
Lawrence Park Panthers
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I agree that balance matters for sure. But everyone seems to be going overboard with it for our bigs. We have lots of guys that will be good PF's, but we don't have any monster centers that also have reasonable outside skills. I'm against mono-skilled players as well, but if we had someone with maybe 6 less secondary pops as Maja and 8 more primary skills, we'd actually have someone that can compete at center on the NT level. We can't just build really balanced PF's all the time and expect to not get killed against an LI offense. We have to be able to train someone with real center primaries that also has the secondaries, which I don't see anyone really doing.


I agree

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217393.54 in reply to 217393.51
Date: 6/8/2012 7:51:19 PM
Lawrence Park Panthers
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Time is a huge factor. Ask a guy like RiP how long he has trained Essa Abu-Kaleel for? I am guessing it is 7 seasons at least.

Maja took 7 seasons and that was starting out very poorly as I had no clue what I was doing :)

To train a good NT player takes at least 6 full seasons of commited training.


RiP is still probably training Kaleel. If Maja kept training he'd be able to help on the inside. 7 seasons... What a joke.... 6 seasons for a good NT player? What have you been smoking beanerz.......

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