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Countdown to the start of Season 1 of the HGL...
...5 days to go.

That's right, time flies so fast!
There are still some matches to be reorganized (for instance Deano25 has problems with his schedule on wrong match times on several cases (3 hours off) as mentioned before, and as an additional note his schedule isn't correct at least for Rounds 9 and 10 - wrong opponents on those rounds). Also, Heywood and Svätý have different PU matches linked for the same day on Round 11.
Having found these kind of things makes me err on the safe side, and I have thought it's not enough to check that only time is correct, but also that it is actually a correct match played on correct day. All this preliminary work is way more arduous project than I anticipated, but at least it will (supposedly/hopefully) be somewhat easier to do for coming seasons of HGL!

I'll try to get checking out these schedules done today, and provide additional instruction about the need for organizing some matches again, likely here on this thread.

But @Deano25: When you look at your BB schedule, what Pickup match start times do you see, so that I get an idea what would be the correct time for you when you will resend some PU challenges?
Against Svätý, your time is incorrect on your schedule on match (133878975).
In Svätý's schedule Round 11 match against you is at correct time, 15.30 EET DST: (133878673).
So first, you need to change that Hadar's match link to your schedule.
So how you see this later one of your challenges against Svätý (on R11) should probably give you likely the correct designated time for sending those challenges.
You can send one challenge as 'a cautious test' first (with that assumed correct time) on one of your earlier starting matches (12.30PM EET DST) that you need to reschedule anyway, and then when that gets accepted, send me a link here on this forum so I'll check and comment that time in it is okay, after which you can proceed to correct all your other matches that start 12.30PM EET DST instead of 03.30PM EET DST.
Also, like mentioned, it will be necessary to check your schedule as it is not correct for rounds 9 and 10 - wrong opponent.

Last edited by Wagner at 4/2/2025 8:42:54 AM

Countdown to the start of Season 1 of the HGL...
...5 days to go.

That's right, time flies so fast!
There are still some matches to be reorganized (for instance Deano25 has problems with his schedule on wrong match times on several cases (3 hours off) as mentioned before, and as an additional note his schedule isn't correct at least for Rounds 9 and 10 - wrong opponents on those rounds). Having found these kind of things makes me err on the safe side, and I have thought it's not enough to check that only time is correct, but also that it is actually a correct match played on correct day. All this preliminary work is way more arduous project than I anticipated, but at least it will (supposedly/hopefully) be somewhat easier to do for coming seasons of HGL!

I'll try to get checking out these schedules done today, and provide additional instruction about the need for organizing some matches again, likely here on this thread.

But @Deano25: When you look at your BB schedule, what Pickup match start times do you see, so that I get an idea what would be the correct time for you when you will resend some PU challenges?

I understand that you really want games to be perfect and I fully appreciate the effort you have put in to make that happen, Wagner. However, in this instance, given that we only have days left (and so that Deano25 doesn't have to waste additional tokens) can we accept the PU games he has organised this time round? After all, we knew there would be things happening here and there prior to getting the first HGL up and running.

I know too well given the team cost I just paid (losing 2 trainee stars). However, my mistake is unacceptable and had to be fixed. Deano25's mistake isn't as huge as mine and, I would argue, probably one we could overlook this once?

I think we are all well aware now that there are rules, we have had issues and resolved them, and that Season 2 should occur without any issues.

The fact that we can show our PU games (their link) and Deano25 has locked in given times, there is now no room for any manipulation (not the kind, Wagner, that you were aiming to prevent).

These are just my thoughts, but with 5 days to go, and with pretty much all games locked in now, is it worth having Deano25 spend more tokens???

These are just my thoughts, but with 5 days to go, and with pretty much all games locked in now, is it worth having Deano25 spend more tokens???

I just sent some added instructions here on this thread (you replied to my message before seeing the edited post) on how to proceed on Deano's case. Yes, I think we want to strive for a great result.

That doesn't mean everything has to be perfect and as I've said, I will likely let 1 hour off-type of situations be, especially as it's perfectly possible that it's due to my mistake in the case of US teams.

However, 3 hours off is more than I want to see here (tolerance being 1 hour), and if I checked correctly, there are only 6 matches starting at 12.30 EET DST that he has to reschedule (remember, Svätÿ's link can be used for R11). For Deano I think it means 6 extra tokens. I think he was also one of the volunteers so he does likely have plenty of tokens, and being supporter he receives 2 new ones per week(?) which is already double than many of us, and will be replaced in 3 weeks fully. And like you know, not all his matches are at the wrong time.

I have not checked out all HGL matches yet, to see if there are other more than 1 hour off-situations.

Last edited by Wagner at 4/2/2025 9:24:30 AM

I agree with MrJ for accepting the few wrong time games for season 1. As long as dates and opponents are the good ones.

I agree with MrJ for accepting the few wrong time games for season 1. As long as dates and opponents are the good ones.

Well, I disagree on this one.
Now that I rechecked, it should be only 6 Heywood's matches that start at 12.30PM EET DST, that have no challenge at correct time available (remember, for R11 they can use link on Svätý's schedule which is already at correct time).

I agree on accepting games for Season 1 that are 1 hour off at most.

Last edited by Wagner at 4/2/2025 9:28:11 AM

Also, Heywood and Svätý have different PU matches linked for the same day on Round 11.

Hi,

the official match is at the official time. The first one is a warm-up :)
I wrote about it with my opponent.

Right... I thought only my 76 year olds' need a bit warming up, but seemingly I was mistaken xD

As you guys already know, I don't like the idea that managers could play as many PU's as they feel like (during Monday or Friday), and then send the match result of their choice to their HGL Scores-thread post - this practice now implemented will practically prevent that possibility.

This is one of the reasons why we have only one designated match time, that is defined before HGL season begins, and then this link will remain the same for the whole season. I will likely transfer all your box score links to official schedule, before or just after Season 1 has started (again, a somewhat arduous project that might have to wait for other, more important things to get finished before it'll get my attention).
This is one of the reasons why it is important that all your box score link posts are totally correct, have correct correct opponents in them played in correct days, do not include dupliicate matches or lack any opponents, and that match box score links are same in your both schedules, your opponents' and yours.
If I can't feel confident things are as they're supposed to be (like has been the case this season), it will cause more work for me as I have to check out every matchup link separately from every teams box score posts, on other words twice per one match instead of once (that means 240 links instead of 120).
As an example in Round 11 HEY vs. HAD do both have different links on supposedly same match - only Svätý Jur Snakers match time is correct.

Speaking of your match that you mentioned, Deano25 needs to change correct link to his HGL schedule on your meeting (currently two times the same link on different rounds, with wrong match time on both), and make those other corrections to schedule (as mentioned in my posts in HGL Scores-thread).
He hasn't yet answered to my posts on official HGL Scores thread, but likely will do that soon, so we can then proceed with partial re-inviting on some of his HGL matches. I have already informed him on HGL Scores thread what match times are wrong, and are waiting for his response so that we can make sure he will make partial re-invitings at correct time (and therefore doesn't lose any more tokens than necessary - I wouldn't even mind gifting him those tokens but seemingly it's not possible, and luckily we're only talking about like 6 tokens or so).

I checked that all times that are wrong in his schedule, are invites sent by him, so he will again send those invites unless someone wants to help him save some tokens and do the challenging themselves (but it would be recommendable for Deano25 to send new challenges himself - on the other hand I don't care who has actually sent the challenge as long as match is played on correct time).
Luckily we are not talking about 1st match of the Season 1 that includes a problem (but instead first one is on Round 2), so theoretically we could get the league running and fix the issue before Round 2 matches. But let's try to get this corrected before HGL actually starts on next Monday.

Last edited by Wagner at 4/3/2025 6:22:20 AM

TOP 8 Salaries and Seeds to Start Season 1 of the HGL

NOTE: TOP 8 Salaries: As promised, I have calculated the salaries of the TOP 8 players from every team as of today, 3rd of April 2025. Some teams had players for sale. Each of these players (who were among their top 8) had bids on them or would have bids on them...so I did not include them. SEEDS: I have then ranked the teams (seeding them) according to their TOP 8 total salaries. This is just for a bit of fun.

SEED / Team / Top 8 Salaries / Manager / Country / Division

1 / Svaty Jur Snakers / $639k / Hadar / Slovensko / Div II.2
2 / Santa Eufemia Ducks / 637k / GM-Enzo / Argentina / Div II.3
3 / Heywood Big Dogs / $520k / Deano25 / Australia / Div II.2
4 / Suuret Muinaiset / $371k / cthulhu / Suomi / Div II.4
5 / WiMaOlca / $328k / WiMaOl / France / Div III.11
6 / Rajdersi / $301k / Paul George / Polska / Div III.11
7 / Elan Demars / $280k / demars / France / Div III.10
8 / Wagner College / $270k / Wagner / Suomi / Div II.2
9 / Les Gueux du Marais / $222k / Coach Faz / France / Div III.4
10 / Trouville BBC / $216k / Chucarro / Uruguay / Div II.1
11 / Madrid Chotis / $211k / Jotadoce / Espana / Div IV.48
12 / Lielupes Melnas Sirdis / $196k / Moneta / Latvija / Div III.15
13 / Holy City Hoopers / $148k / Gccsteel / USA / Div III.15
14 / Buckner Bandits / $105k / T-Lit / USA / Div IV.32
15 / Big Chillers / $59k / BigChill / USA / Div IV.27
16 / Swan River Serpents / $55k / MrJ / Australia / III.2



Last edited by MrJ at 4/5/2025 9:24:30 AM

TOP 8 Salaries and Seeds to Start Season 1 of the HGL

Thanks very much MrJ!
It's always very interesting to see some new data, especially as it's as essential (in prediction of future success) as this! It will be interesting to compare this listing of yours to the HGL Season 1 regular season success, and see how many spots some teams can climb up or will fall down, compared to this salary table ranking/seeding!

I will also publish before season (if time permits, only few days until the beginning!) the information on which teams have purchased back their previously owned players, and how much impact does it have on their current salaries (vs. the moment when they first sold the players in question). I also should add this information provided by you to the team information pages (in the beginning of both official HGL threads), when I have time to do that.

As for other comparisons, it would be exciting to be able to gather at least some team stats from box scores, but I don't know if that would prove to be too much work. Just an idea, and if someone has an easy way in mind on how to implement that simply, please let me know. :)

Last edited by Wagner at 4/3/2025 7:22:39 AM

Countdown to the start of Season 1 of the HGL...


...4 days to go.