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From: B.B.King

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Date: 12/11/2012 8:05:12 AM
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Look a gift horse in the mouth!!

It was nothing which I couldn't do myself.
Since I finished 3rd in 2nd round why do you claim that I couldn't finish 4th in 1st round? Please note, that 2nd round is much harder than 1st round (in 1st round opponents are weaker and you can finish on 4th place).

Why are you rehashing OLD conversations???? WHY????

Why did you write all these posts? WHY????????
If you wrote all these wrong posts, I have right to answer. I didn't it before because if you gave me one cent everytime when you are wrong, I would be rich man. You had chance to correct al these posts with all these wrong statements - you didn't it. Then I asked you to stop sabotage my job - you didn't stop. So therefore I answered.
Still I think the best thing which you can do is not to post in this topic. Or in new topic - then I'll open new.

From: B.B.King

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Date: 12/11/2012 8:20:19 AM
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I was gonna delete all these posts...

Waiting...
135 to go.

it was like my 3rd season or maybe 2nd season playing BB....I hadn'T even finished my arena yet and was still in Nippon DII only allowed to play bots half the games

Your arena has no correlation with NT.
Nobody forced you to start in election. You did it, it means that you thought that you were ready. You were wrong, not first time, not last time.
a noob (which is essentially what I was in my NT run)

If you were noob (you claimed it yourself) so why you joined to elections? I think to sabotage NT. I didn't start in elections when I wasn't ready enough.
Maybe you thought in past that you aren't noob.

but I don7t want to help you solve problems for OTHER NTs

Answer for my question about selection 3 of 5 bigs would be helpful for Japan NT. I can't tell why, I don't want to tell why, but it would be. However you wrote all these hundreds wrong posts fith thousands letters, and didn't answer for one simple question, where only 3 letters were needed. Classic. You can't do nothing, which could be helpful.

All I care about is Nippon NT.

No. You only want to sabotage NT and my job.

I'm gonna try not to respond.

Please don't write about it. Please do it. Don't write in this topic.

From: B.B.King

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Date: 12/11/2012 8:36:52 AM
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For anyone training I think you should think twice about his advice,

It is sabotage.
How can I help others to train players if you ask them not to use my advices?
It is sabotage.

@All: Please ignore all posts written by Wolph, he only wants to sabotage our NT.

Last edited by B.B.King at 12/11/2012 10:13:55 AM

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Date: 12/11/2012 8:38:45 AM
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I started following Nippons forum ever since I found out that B.B.King became your's NT manager. Based on experience from Polish forums I knew it's gonna be fun times :) And I wasn't wrong.
Following that flame war and reading your's and B.B King's posts is really amusing from a perspective of someone who doesn't support either one and don't really care how it will end :)

I didn't want to write anything but in that post you wrote something about Polish NT that is completely false, and you did wrote that several times before so I want to set that straight.




your NT run with HCA you guys were ALSO the most beastly trained, massive salaries, massive primary advantages, devoted teams for almost every player on your squad. Teams that had given up on competing or ever making b3, ever promoting, ever caring about their regular season schedule just to train and pay the salaries of the players you needed to win 300 400k + salaries, that is all you know.



If you want to discredit B.B.Kings achievement of winning World Cup because we had HCA, fine, it's your opinion that you're entitled to.
But the part that I bolded is completely not true. At the time we didn't have the biggest salaries out of top NTs in BB. I remember that because there was a lot of talking about that in Polish forums at the time.

We had exactly 2 players that were as you call it beasts with salaries over 300k. Wiśniewski and Ali Eygi. Especially the second one was max primaries - none secondaries type of player. Wisniewski's secondaries weren't that great but they weren't in black and blue range either.
But EVERY top NT at that time had a few such players on the roster so our roster wasn't that much different from other NT's.

I don't have salaries of players from that time, but I checked how salaries of those players add up now. And I also checked salaries of players that played in NT of our 3 last opponents from that season.

Because it's six seasons later those comparisons aren't very precise, since some of those players got more training and their salary is higher than 6 seasons ago (but that applies to all 4 NT's so I guess it more less evens out), some of them are 34 or older now so their salary dropped due to skill drops (I will list how many players are currently 34+ from those NT's and their precise age, because 35 year old will surely get bigger salary drop than a 34 year old), but I think it can generally show you that our NT wasn't that beastly trained and over the top in primaries as you make it out to be.

Polish NT : 2 052 871 (2 players 34 (C and PG) , 1 player 35 (C) )
Chile NT: 2 092 351 (1 players 34 (SG), 2 players 35 (2 C) )
Usa NT: 2 197 936 (4 players (34), 1 player 36, 1 player 38)
Italy NT: 2 766 896 (none 34 years or older).

So as you can see we weren't very different from other NT's in terms of salary paid.

I wouldn't be surprised if B.B. King had data of all those NT's salaries in season 16, and maybe he will want to post exact salaries but I am 100% sure that this data would support what I just posted.


So please, discredit B.B. King's achievement as polish NT manager all you want, but don't back up those statements with untrue facts :)

And if you think our NT was that weak and we just got lucky because we had HCA I remind you that we also won next WC in season 18, so that first gold wasn't a fluke :)


And that would be all from me. Pardon the interruption and you guys can go back to that bickering and flame war that gives us impartial observators so much fun :)

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Date: 12/11/2012 9:26:57 AM
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It looks like NT topics on Japan forum are more interesting than on Poland forum ;-)

Poland had 19 players in top-600 salaries in S16. And 33 in top-1000 (1000th the best salary was then ~150k):


3. 448 026 Wisniewski
16. 370 976 Eygi
139. 260 418 Kolpaczynski (out of NT)
175. 248 968 Sojka (out of NT)
187. 245 278 Rakus
238. 227 929 Stupa (out of NT)
240. 227 557 Luderitz
247. 226 829 Strojnowski (out of NT)
257. 225 304 Perko
279. 221 970 Ciejka (out of NT)
288. 220 334 Bujok (out of NT - first guard)
292. 219 671 Gurak
294. 219 103 Anisiewicz
351. 209 683 Lange (out of NT)
392. 203 115 Jakóbiak (out of NT)
407. 199 940 Heiss (out of NT)
478. 189 612 Buchcik (out of NT)
520. 184 513 Opoka (out of NT)
568. 180 374 Podniesinski - first guard in NT

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