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Date: 5/19/2012 4:28:05 AM
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well ive managed to train Palit on a level 4 trainer and he's turned out pretty good

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ive never got 16 pops in one season on an 18yo guard, but i guess it might be possible if you solidly train passing and one-on-one etc. I generally get 10 per season from 18 through to 22 but i do mix in a fair bit of OD earlier on and maybe some of the faster popping training later on...

thank you all for answering my earlier questions. very interesting insights!


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Date: 5/20/2012 10:54:03 AM
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Good question, I'm interested to hear the answers :)

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Date: 5/20/2012 11:23:27 AM
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I think what we'd like to see is our best five ball prospects (MVP+) prepared for the full NT from day one, and if they play for the U21s along the way, great. That leaves the four ball potential or less players (Superstar, Peren allstar, maybe even allstar in some positions) to be trained with only the U21s in mind - as they will then likely be sold at 22.

We want good communication with managers of these prospects, so they train the players well.

We want good communication with the community, so we know which players are coming through and become excited about seeing them play for the U21s.

Some success on the court would also be good, but not at the expense of player development.

Essentially it's about taking each draft group to U21 graduation and preparing the five ball potential players to be NT starters around the age of 24.

Eminence ticked all these boxes, and we'd hope to get someone just as good this time. Maybe even better, if we're lucky.

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Date: 5/20/2012 1:12:22 PM
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He could've won the game against the Czechs!

Looking at the players who've graduated and been transfer listed, I'd say he's done a really good job. A lack of stamina and ball handling skills being the only real issue. Did Hall, for instance, need 10 in OD? But this is nit-picking, he did a great job.

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A 2-3 zone can be run effectively, but only if you have the right types of players. Obviously your guards would have to have high OD to make up for the lack of outside coverage, but running a 2-3 zone correctly mostly relies on the bigs. Not only would your bigs have to have decent OD in case they had to go out and cover the long jumper, but they would also have to have high SB levels to help stop the guards from penetrating towards the basket and either getting a layup or close jumper. If the opposition's guards have high HA and DR also, and are able to create their own shot and get to the basket more effectively, then a lack of OD and SB levels on your bigs will lead to a lot of unnecessary fouls, and these guards would just dominate the whole game. I know many may disagree with me about the whole SB thing, but OD and ID pressure the ball handler, while SB pressures the shooter at the moment of the shot (stated by BB-Charles himself). If you aren't able to pressure the shot effectively, some of your key players may foul out.

To basically sum up what I said, the 2-3 zone requires a lot to work as it should, but is a good option if you have the right players and are facing the right team.

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