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And I respect that approach 100%.. no issue there. At the time same if some things are unknown to this day. 7-8 years . 27-28 seasons strong's . Then whats wrong with BB stepping up and telling it??

Some games for this game will never be find out on BB. Same issue from my example with chess. The starting chess master and creators came out and told and expanded the game. The creator made starting manual as well same as BB, it didn't tell all the ways of play starting , only starting base., Then a chess master came out and told things with permission of the creator on differ style of play. Which none knew how do properly but had a clue of. In small those ways were not popular. Kind of like running 2-3 zone and Princeton on BB its not popular just good way to lose. he told how to make these unpopular chess ways strong. A lot BB manager including myself have no idea how merge these together for anything but a lost game, in my opinion.


Back to my points. It expanded the game of chess. My point in small is why not expand BB in the same fashion. training and all that for certain tactics is a mystery. I'm saying not tell it all like a interview with Barbra Walters, No... Im saying be more clear , stop all scribble scrabble., be more up front , a manual don't mean anything. Until they show some success with certain tactics, it still a very great issue. Yes someone had to come out and tell it. It should not take 10-100 yrs and drastic Ge changes to do so. All of that could have been very avoided with just telling things.

Its does not hurt the game it expands the market. Im not being rude. I saw won B3 atleast 3 times . where is his guide to play this or that that unpopular. Where is his insight on this matter.?


Last edited by Mr. Glass at 11/1/2014 10:06:58 PM

I didn't say out right tell them what to do.. I said point them in the right direction, make sure they have proper set up to start. not baby sit them for their whole BB career. Also clear up the confusion in a lot areas. As one member pointed out.

Its a bit silly to see that kind of confusion.

you misread that badly.. it says the optimal strategy is still largely unknown, in small every playing way has not been found. same as for bb

The games are the same built on tactics an most unknown .Chess was made by a Russian or German man.. the 1st few masters were European decent, they wrote books.

Not hard to find books on chess differ playing style for tactics. Writing by world champions.

show me some BB? my point.

BB need to more transparent with player training and etc. You cant just train players to the full moon and expect success.. you training to the tactics. If a player cant play more than one tactic or 1 defense what good is he.. That what you have today on BB. same in chess in some playing stlyles..

The big difference is people wrote book in chess. Starting master 's

The point is in small, you can have all training forums in the world But if the manager don't whats he looking at? what does it do. It will do him no good to have him and do the training.

I know what a pawn can do in chess and it considered the weakest piece. then theres tactic's based in chess for the pawn to be the strongest aspect in the playing way. If BB has to label players to the skill for tactic, of what they can play well or what form of player he is.,then so be. It would make it much easier for the manager to know what he buying/ and building him, early training building for the market will just get better etc.. Training builds need to better explained. Not a guessing game.. Its help the market.


If player is all 9's. I cant just sit here and say ok he's well-rounded ,he can play it it all. Or say ok build on him the defensive side till you cant no more,just because the other guy cant score it will come down to free throws and crap like that because you have no offense in him. That not explaining any tactical advantage but only skill full. I havent express what kind of tactical player he has or is.

In certain tactic the pf don't need 17 id and od.. He may perform better as a offensive mind or passing the ball in the offensive choosen which boost up game flow? say for example push the ball. You can play that certain player from the bench because you know who you have in playing style.. If we just build him to the basic way, he will never be effective in some tactic's. I Understand freedom of choice and selection and mind.

A same time. A lot are just thinking one way. Training is the key right? But alot cant tell who they have in tactical way in their teams. I will put like this and leave it be , a non traditional player will always be better than a traditional player. The manager alone is going to be only guy to know how to play him and will keep him. You really cant sell that today non traditional players. Because he not built to the status Qou. But that player better is indeed tactically better.

Labeling them as Low post player or princeton player has not set the game back or gave away the game engine nor advantages to anyone... It just helped the build player diversity in the market.

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 11/2/2014 2:10:13 PM

There's a menu option that says help. It links now to the Mentoring thread, though previously it linked to the Guide to BuzzerBeater + FAQ thread. The Mentoring thread will help someone find someone to explain things to them or answer questions, while the other thread will answer a lot of questions and give some explanations about the basic tactics, training, the draft, etc. I am glad personally that there is a lot of information available for those who seek it, but no "click here to not suck in your first season" button.

And That's the mentality of bb managers today in a nut shell.. guard the faults of bb instead of improve them.. Its sad to see.. no harm or offense to you. But its a brain washed mentality.

If bb gave a real damn they would improve the faults and explain things better. Help the starting base instead of resrtrict the starting base. But instead of that they rather play ring around the rosey or , musicial chairs.. Make tactic like yatzee just roll the dice with very little meaning beyond power moves( gdp).

I don't think its a good look in the long run.. I'm not that brain dead to sit back and say the Faq is 100% correct. because alot of the faq is confused in information and not telling things right to the reader t understand, very very, very basic detail. Its not aristotol'e or what ever his name was. " the polis" in depth. Yes it blessing to have it..

At same they could do more. But they wont ,they want you to do more, and claim its your game.. It is not. You cant have it both ways in life BB management.. You cant sit on your hands with certain issues and then get mad at the people wanting things to be better at the start. How in the hell is it hard to scroll back Li.. How in the hell is it hard to lable player abiilty to know his playing base strength. For example Low post player in market to buy..

I find it funny. At same time its a sad funny. I'm not content with the way the game is going. you want me to suggest better. OK> explain the damn training numbers better. Fix LI dominance, improve Jr.. make Id./Od more expensive. Thats just for starters.

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 11/3/2014 7:07:27 PM

And That's the mentality of bb managers today in a nut shell.. guard the faults of bb instead of improve them.. Its sad to see.. no harm or offense to you. But its a brain washed mentality.

No offense taken. We just disagree on what the faults are sometimes. I've said frequently that the substitution options should be revamped as a priority. I think there's definitely a problem with jump shooting/outside shooting percentages and just a balance issue in general with the fact that the number of skills needed for outside offense is much higher than the number of skills needed to shut it down (JS/JR + HA/DR/PA vs. OD) and even worse, OD trains faster on its own than JR alone. I just think that there's plenty of information out there for new managers to be able to be successful without having BB dictate how to play (with, of course, our recurring disagreement over whether they should be able to buy 100k salary players). ;)

I've said frequently that the substitution options should be revamped as a priority.

I would like to see this, I have a combo guard and a 3rd big man who I would like to see as the backup at two positions. Using SFDC doesn't utilize a three guard/big rotation and CPFDC can sometimes get some weird combinations (although I am finding some use for this).