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Manager: GODBEAR
Country: USA
League: III.8
Rival: shm
World Rank: 1950
Country Rank: 92
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Sounds like a foreign name to me. GODBEAR IS A SHAM, HIS PATRIOTISM ACT IS A LIE, THE CAKE IS A LIE TOO...

And if I don't win this I am going to send my resume to the Toccoa Panthers!

Ok time to ignore all the theatrics and be serious.

A look at the candidates:

Thegame187

Club success: Manager for 19 seasons since S13. 4 in D.V, 3 in D.IV, 8 in D.III, 3 in D.II, 1 in NBBA. Currently in D.II after relegating from NBBA.

NT record: Coached NZ U21 NT, 28th in world, for 6 seasons. Enjoys 73% approval rating. No strong sign of innovation or success but in fairness, not much to work with in terms of a player base.

Training: Has never trained a US U21 NT player (which would be a sign of personal commitment to U21 team's success, a desirable trait in a would-be manager).

Philosophy: Different player builds that often strongly defy conventional norms. Limited justification for these builds (e.g. no PA/DR/HA on a potential SG in khenry's hypothetical situation when statistics show the necessity of those skills). Questions tactical choices, even successful ones, (e.g. motion in semifinal) in ways that seem to contradict his desire to run multiple offenses, 'break out of the mold' and be different. Is an offsite member but rarely active. Disapproves of the offsite, ostensibly on the grounds of being too much of a cabal/secret society that is more concerned with its own interests and not welcoming to others. Is concerned that Phyr is just getting a free pass to run again based on his hard work and reputation on the offsite, even though he hasn't produced the desired results (i.e. not winning gold). Would de-emphasize offsite contributions as manager despite an unprecedented track record of success produced by the community discussion. Seems to want to do things his own way, being different for the sake of being different and putting all the power in the hands of one individual, himself, instead of the community.


Godbear

Club success: Manager for 8 seasons since S24. 3 in D.V, 2 in D.IV, 3 in D.III. Currently in D.III after losing in the finals with a chance to advance to D.II on the line.

NT record: No NT coaching record (that I know of). Has registered in several of the past U21 elections, seemingly only half seriously at best. Garnered some (again half-joking) support for his theatrically embellished speeches of patriotism.

Training: Has never trained a US U21 NT player (which would be a sign of personal commitment to U21 team's success, a desirable trait in a would-be manager).

Philosophy: Has often run on 'Murica-based themes, how America is the best and deserves to win. Currently more of the same and proclaiming how failing to defeat France in the final makes Phyr unfit to lead 'Murica. Little involvement on the offsite but has not voiced explicit disapproval.

Phyr
Club success: Manager for 10 seasons since S22. 3 in D.V, 3 in D.IV, 3 in D.III, 1 in D.II. Currently in D.II after losing in the first round of playoffs in first season in D.II.

NT record: Coached US U21 NT for past two seasons, winning Americas and getting Silver in worlds after a rough start with one of the weaker teams in recent memory that especially struggled during the beginning of this season. Had to overcome enthusiasm deficit and stronger opponents (e.g. Italy) via different tactical choices agreed upon by collective decision. Ultimately defeated in Finals by his his own trademark--France used tactics to perfection on offense and defense to give US one of their most significant losses in team history both due to the margin of defeat and what was at stake.

Training: Has trained U21 players on Utopia team devoted basically specifically to the good of the U21 NT. Has been preparing a crop of big men for next season's worlds team since before he was elected manager.

Philosophy: Emphasizes importance of offsite community, sticking with what has been shown to work. Emphasizes importance of scouting and has been a leader in this area on the offsite. Not looking to make major

Not really smart enough to see that I am calling your logic hypocritical. Please tell us your glorious plan GODCUB. The American people deserve to hear what you have to say. I would love to see you post something that is about you and not about me. I think you have a crush on me

NT record: No NT coaching record (that I know of). Has registered in several of the past U21 elections, seemingly only half seriously at best. Garnered some (again half-joking) support for his theatrically embellished speeches of patriotism.

Universals man... Universals.

Training: Has never trained a US U21 NT player (which would be a sign of personal commitment to U21 team's success, a desirable trait in a would-be manager).

I wish it were that easy. At the end of the day I manage/train my own team based on player market value. (Or at least I have been) Find me an American U21 prospect with a good market value and I'll be all over it.

In case you haven't guessed, I am a Phyr supporter. I have not participated extensively in U21 discussions (more of a lurker than a commenter) but I have read many of the discussions and I have seen the tremendous amount of thought and work he has personally put in, as well as being receptive to the suggestions of others.

Let's be real, if we had won the Finals game we are not even questioning Phyr's credentials here. But since we didn't (and since France's excellent tactics make it look like we lost because Phyr got outsmarted) then that has opened the door for other people to campaign saying that we're giving Phyr a pass because of his reputation with the offsite people, who are the most likely to vote, and effort rather than because he's actually a good manager. People are making this out to be some big conspiracy, where the offsite picks who it wants rather than the actual best candidate and then votes them into office. Let's put that notion to rest.

We don't win the games we win if we don't have managers tracking skills of opposing teams, analyzing minutes played by opposing players, analyzing tactics used by opponent and lineups/player positions in each tactic. That's a tremendous amount of work that is only possible if you have multiple people who know what they are doing and are committed to helping the team win, which you really only have on the offsite. We don't even get near the finals with the team we had last season if we don't pick our tactics virtually perfectly up until the finals. We pick the tactics we pick because we have experienced managers endlessly debating the merits of each possible tactical combination, and their combined wisdom has led to extraordinary success. And finally, no matter how great the offsite community may or may not be, we don't win if we don't have the right manager to make and execute the difficult decisions. Rejecting the advantages offered by the offsite's community of support and rejecting the candidate who has proven he can utilize these advantages to their greatest extent--because he didn't win a world championship, the slacker--would be simply absurd.

Say what you want about the Finals game. First of all, that was a collective decision by the group, not Phyr's sole responsibility. We've had undeniable success as an offsite community so we're not going to deny our (basically isolated) moment of failure. Second, the decision was undermined when our decoy callup who was selected for his high DMI was listed on the TL by his manager after being called up, revealing his relatively poor skills and exposing our deception to France, arguably giving them the confidence to double down on LI GDP guess. Had he not been listed on the TL (outside of Phyr's control) France has to respect an outside guess. Third, France took an incredible risk and hit the jackpot. This is a credit to their bravery and decision-making more than it is a criticism of ours. Just because your opponent gets lucky doesn't mean it was a bad decision. So if that's the only strike you have against Phyr, I think you need to keep looking.

Let's be real, if we had won the Finals game we are not even questioning Phyr's credentials here. But since we didn't (and since France's excellent tactics make it look like we lost because Phyr got outsmarted) then that has opened the door for other people to campaign saying that we're giving Phyr a pass because of his reputation with the offsite people, who are the most likely to vote, and effort rather than because he's actually a good manager. People are making this out to be some big conspiracy, where the offsite picks who it wants rather than the actual best candidate and then votes them into office. Let's put that notion to rest.

But we lost Ken.

We don't win the games we win if we don't have managers tracking skills of opposing teams, analyzing minutes played by opposing players, analyzing tactics used by opponent and lineups/player positions in each tactic. That's a tremendous amount of work that is only possible if you have multiple people who know what they are doing and are committed to helping the team win, which you really only have on the offsite. We don't even get near the finals with the team we had last season if we don't pick our tactics virtually perfectly up until the finals. We pick the tactics we pick because we have experienced managers endlessly debating the merits of each possible tactical combination, and their combined wisdom has led to extraordinary success. And finally, no matter how great the offsite community may or may not be, we don't win if we don't have the right manager to make and execute the difficult decisions. Rejecting the advantages offered by the offsite's community of support and rejecting the candidate who has proven he can utilize these advantages to their greatest extent--because he didn't win a world championship, the slacker--would be simply absurd.

All of these exhausting advantages and still silver?

Not really smart enough to see that I am calling your logic hypocritical. Please tell us your glorious plan GODCUB. The American people deserve to hear what you have to say. I would love to see you post something that is about you and not about me. I think you have a crush on me [ <3]

You've got it all wrong sport. I admire winners.

Thanks for proving my point! One day you may find out how hard it is to manage a U21 finals game.

Last edited by Phyr at 8/6/2015 5:08:56 PM