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124192.47 in reply to 124192.46
Date: 3/29/2012 5:07:27 PM
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Well if you try to school sb and dont know how the thing you are explaining really works, youre making a moot point.

I was not asking to be schooled, but rather criticising those who throw out random numbers just because. Often enough you will read a panicking newbie asking if 47 minutes is really worth only x% (x being <<75) of full training, because his source says so.

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124192.49 in reply to 124192.47
Date: 3/31/2012 5:41:42 AM
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Well if you try to school sb and dont know how the thing you are explaining really works, youre making a moot point.


well, even if Manon does not know exactly which parameters, or even which function governs the training minutes vs. training gain, the point he made is undoubtedly true.. his statement that there is a greater difference between 47-48 minutes and 35-36 minutes (that is, if you get your player 35 minutes instead of 36, the difference in obtained training would be less than the difference between getting 48 and 47 minutes) is easily mathematically provable. just observe the derivatives of the function t=f(m) where m are the minutes and t is the obtained training. if you take the derivative f'(35) and f'(47), for any function which has a growth greater than linear, it will hold f'(35)<f'(47).. for the linear growth f'(35)=f'(47).. you can use mathematical induction to prove that it is true for every m, irregardless of the function in use. and, since the bb developers have said that the training function doesn't have a linear training function, but one with a higher growth rate, the statement is completely valid independently of the parameters and the actual function they use.

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124192.50 in reply to 124192.49
Date: 3/31/2012 6:51:21 AM
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Congratulations for your redundant post.

My mistake was to adress a thin-skinned person, I dont object your math genius calculations. Theory is one thing, but as long as you cant prove it by showng real percentages it is useless (adressed to multiple unknown firestarters) to panic people by throwing out fantasy numbers like 40-50% loss if only 47 minutes obtained.

Kkthxbye

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124192.51 in reply to 124192.50
Date: 3/31/2012 7:34:45 AM
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Theory is one thing, but as long as you cant prove it by showng real percentages it is useless (adressed to multiple unknown firestarters) to panic people by throwing out fantasy numbers like 40-50% loss if only 47 minutes obtained.


could you, please, indicate who stated that there is a 40-50% loss if only 47 minutes are obtained? i'm really interested now :)

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124192.52 in reply to 124192.42
Date: 3/31/2012 8:15:52 AM
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There was only an issue because you didn't read what Manon wrote correctly. He gave a general example of what exponential growth is using 1.0 as a round number. He then went on to say that the reality is far more then 50% for 47 minutes. At no point did he say 50% is the reality and very clearly stated this wasn't the case.

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124192.54 in reply to 124192.53
Date: 4/1/2012 2:45:50 PM
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My player just have missed 2 seconds of training till 48+ minutes somehow....

hope i wont lose more than 10% of training cause of random subs while shoting free throws.

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124192.56 in reply to 124192.55
Date: 4/7/2012 2:41:44 PM
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Seriously......

What a ridiculous thing to have in this game... One minute less and your player doesn't train properly? Game time should only count in a major way towards one thing, and that is experience. To a lesser extent stamina and other skills to an even lesser extent.

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