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140518.46 in reply to 140518.44
Date: 4/15/2010 6:22:11 PM
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I understand your point,but I say that your strategy to solve the problem howewer will not solve it,because there will be also some unexperienced player which make some mistake on the market,and some managers will gain money form it,but trying to do a commendable thing,you will punish all the honest managers in the game(and also they'd like to have the better posible income for their players,so don't blame on it ;D)

Last edited by Steve Karenn at 4/15/2010 6:23:42 PM

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140518.47 in reply to 140518.37
Date: 4/15/2010 6:25:26 PM
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I explained one of the reasons we moved to the new system and are exploring improvements.

We feel that the GM time is better served attending to more important issues.

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140518.48 in reply to 140518.45
Date: 4/15/2010 6:29:07 PM
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and you put also if in it, you just don't name then - you just view the case that there are always two or more players who are interested on a player and have time and enough money to lead to the fair price and this case isn't always happen.

And also the BB use the IF you list him to a price you like to sell him case, if the transferlist is down this don't happen regulary but always unespected. So what do you want to make with them, if they are forced to sell them for 1 buck, because else you pay to high taxes?

I'm actually talking about managers that fish for that one bid. Once again, if you have a reasonable price you will get more than one bid - thus unstable server will not be a problem. Comon 1% tax will not force anyone to sell at 1 buck.
but 95% of the people don't do it, and even the rest(5%) will look if they get a similiar player on a better time first. So this maybe work for special player, not for all.

List the player for a reasonable price for that timeframe and the player will be sold. Completely pointless remark.
if all people live for buzzerbeater maybe thats right, but some people maybe play it just one hour when they have time and not with an alarm clock or in there rare breaks.

So if you play for one hour a day you would rather list @ 6mil? If you can't aim for the sweetest sale time, you should set a price that is reasonable for that timeframe.
or that you need a bit of patient, top get the same price like the others who are lucky.

It's not luck it's fishing for more money for less value.
which brings you nothing

correction: which brings us fair game and new user friendly community.

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140518.49 in reply to 140518.48
Date: 4/15/2010 6:36:58 PM
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"If you can't aim for the sweetest sale time, you should set a price that is reasonable for that timeframe."

So you are saying that if someone isn't able to be online during the 'sweetest' sale time then they should list at a lower price and risk losing potential profit? I don't think that is fair.

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140518.50 in reply to 140518.49
Date: 4/15/2010 7:33:58 PM
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So you are saying that if someone isn't able to be online during the 'sweetest' sale time then they should list at a lower price and risk losing potential profit? I don't think that is fair.


It is not losing potential profit. You might list it at a lower price but the market will drive the bid up to a fair value to what the player is worth.

If you list a player at a higher price than what he is worth, the chances are he won't be sold anyway and you are just fishing for someone to make a bid

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140518.51 in reply to 140518.49
Date: 4/16/2010 12:42:23 AM
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I don't see the sale time as a big problem. I for one sell about a player per month. Thus I have no problems trying to list for the peak sale time. I'm bidding on more players per month and evaluate my funds and change of getting him to my team.
We could argue about the best sale time. Is it at the start of the season? When every team is looking for new additions for their roster, is it before the playoffs.
If your player is worth 4mil listing him at 4mil would net you 0 bids at "not sweet" time, would net you 1-2 bids at "sweet time". Listing him at 3,5 would net you 8+ bids at "sweet" time and 2+ bids at "not sweet" time. The goal is to minimize those 1 bid sales, usually those one bid sales are listed too high (unless you have agreed to sell him to someone with that price or are selling a prospect).

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140518.52 in reply to 140518.50
Date: 4/16/2010 3:53:29 AM
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That's not necessarily true. For example, lets say I have a really good player, and I list him at 1k at 3pm Australian time. There is only 500 people online (roughly) and so there might only be 10 people interested in my player. If I sell at 2am Australian time there are 3500 people online (roughly) and so there might be 100 people interested in my player. Clearly, chances are that the player sold at 2am is going to sell for more, right? So selling at 3pm, will get you a lower price.

And I'm not saying list players at a higher price, I'm saying that if you list a player worth 2 million at 2 million starting price at 2pm Australian time, you probably won't get a bid, but if you list a player worth 2 million at 2 million starting price at 2am Australian time, you probably will get a bid as there are so many more people online.

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140518.53 in reply to 140518.36
Date: 4/19/2010 8:56:10 AM
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If someone is interested in your player they will prolly send you a BB-mail.
Is posting player skills in forum forbidden? To my knowledge you can not link players that are transfer listed. You can post your whole teams skills if you want to as long as they are not transfer listed.
You could write: I'm interested in selling my player [player=blablabla] waiting for offers via BB-mail. Or you could just list your player for a reasonable price (or a bit below it if you are unsure of his value).
There is no need to spam anyone. I'm going to say it once more, if the price is right -> player will always be sold.


Who wants to read forums to find suitable player, if he can filter players on TL?
Why to add new taxes just because you are lazy to set Maximum Current Bid? It allows you not to see players you don't want to see.

You can think of some administration fee which wouldn't depend on asking price but would be the same for placing any player on TL.
Maybe you can think of some other impact of placing player on TL such as game shape drop (because player is stressed by possibility of changing team - but sometime player can look forward to transfer ...). It could be acceptable for me.

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140518.54 in reply to 140518.53
Date: 4/19/2010 10:31:07 AM
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Why to add new taxes just because you are lazy to set Maximum Current Bid? It allows you not to see players you don't want to see.

This sentence shows that you have absolutely no idea what this tax is about.

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140518.55 in reply to 140518.54
Date: 4/19/2010 5:49:34 PM
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I know absolutely about what it is.
You want punish managers which spent a lot of time on this game. But you should know that the game needs this managers (many of them are supporters and the game needs the supporters).
More restrictions more unhappy managers. This idea doesn't make a sense at all.

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140518.56 in reply to 140518.55
Date: 4/19/2010 5:53:40 PM
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What are you talking about? How is this going to punish anyone who spends a lot of time in the game?
This will punish managers who constantly list their players for more than they are worth. You clearly have not read this suggestion thorouglhy.

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