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221190.46 in reply to 221190.42
Date: 7/12/2012 7:58:21 PM
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lol good debate but yeah way off topic now :P

From: abigfishy

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221190.47 in reply to 221190.43
Date: 7/12/2012 8:06:42 PM
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disagree lots of nba drafted players dont help right away the majority

sure in the nba draft each season there r players like rose, lebron etc who will help right away but think about this seasons draft

outside of Anthony Davis & Michael Kidd-Gilchrist how many r expected to start right away? vast majority will be in development & support role for a while until they get trained & r good enough to become starters in the nba

you made a perfect point that prooves what i am saying

Sure there are no DivI starters in BB draft, but there are more potential and improving players for sure.


obv i dont expect an 18 yr old rookie to be a div 1 starter

but what i do expect is that 5 seasons later many or at least SOME draft picks will be starters

again look @ the top german league & tell me if that is true?

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221190.48 in reply to 221190.44
Date: 7/12/2012 8:10:06 PM
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good points but arent u really worried about underpriced players?

it makes "renting" players just way too easy & tanking a great winning strategy

From: Kukoc

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221190.50 in reply to 221190.47
Date: 7/13/2012 3:27:13 AM
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outside of Anthony Davis & Michael Kidd-Gilchrist how many r expected to start right away? vast majority will be in development & support role for a while until they get trained & r good enough to become starters in the nba
The point of the draft is not to get a starter to every team. Sure, drafts are different in strenght, but a backup in one team, might be a starter in bobcats. If you don't start eating up minutes in your first season in the NBA, you might aswell pack your bags for D-League or Europe. Guys getting garbage minutes, usually do not sign another contract after their rookie contract ends.
Second round draft picks aren't even guaranteed a contract.
I looked at their first TSV Bogen, he has atleast 3 players from his own team/draft playing at a respectable level. What do you think, how big of a % the players who never change teams (throughout their all-star career), of all the players drafted in history? So before argueing anything you should calculate that %.
Like I have sayd before, there is A LOT of talent on TL for practically nothing, after every draft. It's not hard to draft a star or allstar. Sure you need to invest a bit more in draft. Now here you say, "I can buy a better player from the TL", but if you want to train a player you drafted yourself, wouldn't that mean, you should invest more, instead of crying for draftee level raise.
There is enough potential on the draft. You have drafted MVP and Allstar in S18 draft while picking 15-th and 31-st. Allstar and Star in S19, with 16-th and 32-th pick. Potential would lose it's point, if you can train 75% of players to atleast divI level backups.

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221190.51 in reply to 221190.47
Date: 7/13/2012 3:41:20 AM
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disagree lots of nba drafted players dont help right away the majority

sure in the nba draft each season there r players like rose, lebron etc who will help right away but think about this seasons draft

outside of Anthony Davis & Michael Kidd-Gilchrist how many r expected to start right away? vast majority will be in development & support role for a while until they get trained & r good enough to become starters in the nba

you made a perfect point that prooves what i am saying

Sure there are no DivI starters in BB draft, but there are more potential and improving players for sure.


obv i dont expect an 18 yr old rookie to be a div 1 starter

but what i do expect is that 5 seasons later many or at least SOME draft picks will be starters

again look @ the top german league & tell me if that is true?



Cavs will prob start both their guys....
Houston will prob start atleast 1....

it'll happen.

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221190.54 in reply to 221190.21
Date: 7/13/2012 5:24:14 PM
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I trained a starter potential player and sold him for 505k. I just trained him carefully, and not too much!

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221190.55 in reply to 221190.50
Date: 7/13/2012 6:11:26 PM
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The point of the draft is not to get a starter to every team.


agree but the point of the draft is 2 be able 2 draft someone that one day can start for your team

Like I have sayd before, there is A LOT of talent on TL for practically nothing, after every draft


totally agree u can get a guy for $1k far better than anyone u can draft urself

where is the disagreement?

It's not hard to draft a star or allstar. Sure you need to invest a bit more in draft. You have drafted MVP and Allstar in S18 draft while picking 15-th and 31-st. Allstar and Star in S19, with 16-th and 32-th pick


ill post my drafting history

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221190.56 in reply to 221190.55
Date: 7/13/2012 6:18:04 PM
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DO NOT READ UNLESS REALLY INTERESTED

this is the sad tale of my drafting history ill make a summary @ the end


for the record i have spent $20,000 on the draft almost every week since i started in season 10

season div wins
10 3/6 14 +139
11 3/6 19 +581
12 3/6 19 +618
13 3/6 21 +894
14 2/1 13 +163
15 2/1 12 +172
16 2/1 15 +471
17 2/1 13 +370
18 2/1 19 +809
19 2/1 22 +989

season 10 draft

we started in season 10 round 4 so missed out on 1 week of drafting spending $20,000 x 13 weeks

cost $260,000 running cost $260,000 - sales $400,000 = total profit $140,000 (this is my peak!)

draft picks
#13 choice #1 Xiong Tiande $3294 19 HoF C 6'9"
i train guards and he was 6'9" with awful js & all bad guard skills but also inept id, was 19 with low skills sold for $400,000

#29 choice #10 Gao Fazhan $2745 19 allstar C 6'8"
a second big man when i already had xie & rad and was 100% going with guards with 7 x inept or worse i just sacked him

#45 choice #30 He Qunhao $2424 19 benchwarmer PG 6'1"
benchwarmer = sacked

season 11 draft

cost $280,000 running cost $540,000 - sales $420,000 = total loss $120,000

draft picks
#14 choice #3 Perry Hardman $4560 18 star SG 6'6"
he was very tempting but i just felt with the height of 6'6" and potential of only star he wasnt worth training - i have always trained high potential guys pallstar at least with only one exception ever i sold him for about $20,000

#30 choice #4 Ric De Bartolo $4213 19 star SF 6'11"
too tall too low potential couldnt sell him so sacked

#46 choice #34 Tamra Gupta $1991 19 benchwarmer PF 6'3"
sacked

season 12 draft

cost $280,000 running cost $820,000 - sales $638,000 = total loss $182,000

draft picks
#15 choice #2 Eddie Nixon $4023 18 superstar SG 6'9"
already stuck on guards i get an 18yo superstar SG - couldn't be better right, but 6'9" with pitiful IS and awful RE & PA sold for $208,100.

#31 choice #13 Evan Halatau $3026 18 starter PG 6'5"
too low potenrial sold for $10,000 and still playing!

#47 choice #16 Andreas Czybulka-Schwenold $2472 18 starter PG 6'5"
sacked

season 13 draft (the worst ever!)

cost $280,000 running cost $1,100,000 - sales $638,000 = total loss $462,000

draft picks
#16 choice #3 Alex Deevey $3118 18 benchwarmer SG 6'2"
it was a crappy draft for guards & everyone i checked was bad sacked

#32 choice #5 Lokmalhakim bin Sulaiman $3185 18 roleplayer PF 6'2"
sacked

#48 choice #33 Jörg Hersch $1726 19 benchwarmer PF 6'10"
sacked

2 benchwarmers & a roleplayer awesome

season 14 draft

cost $280,000 running cost $1,380,000 - sales $638,000 = total loss $742,000 but one slightly trainable player with a tpe of $10,000

draft picks
#9 (my best ever pick) choice #4 Darius Black $3245 18 star 6'1" PG
by now i was really annoyed about my drafting & just wanted to be able to train a draft pick like everyone else so when i got darius even though he had bad skills (7 x inept or worse 42 skill points in total (excluding stam & free throws)) and potential i decided screw it im gonna train him

#25 choice #14 Konstantin Pitzing $2737 18 6th man 6'0" PG
sacked

#41 choice #22 Hazem Mugridge $2771 19 starter 6'1" PG
sacked

SUMMARY READ THIS

after 6 seasons of drafting & trying 2 find a guard to train & an investment of $1.3 million my best drafted rookie was a $3k star potential

easy you say

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