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From: Bevzil

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Date: 4/5/2008 7:08:28 AM
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About the groups, why not divide Europe in 2 groups, Western and Eastern, or North and South Europe??? I think that would be fair and easiest to do...

And as far as minutes are concerned, that would be easy to solve... Buy a couple of average 18-year old youngsters, drop off the National Cup and train them in scrimmages... Because of that, I think there should be no money, no minutes and no injuries in this competition...

Example: Let's say I'm in the EuroBuzzerCup... I buy some average JS, average JR, average DV and average OD youngsters... They are pretty cheap... I play them, first in Cup, and then in Scrimmages, and by the end of the EuroBuzzerCup, they could all be strong in those Skills... And I could sell them for big money... So I think the idea of training minutes is not fair... For me, those minutes would not be a problem... And I could profit of them... So I think this should be played only for glory and to proudly represent your country...

From: ZyZla
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22182.47 in reply to 22182.46
Date: 4/5/2008 7:16:54 AM
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almost all of you wanna make it easier for those who wont get a chance to play in International cups... And almost all of you try to avoid any realism of this competition... In reality all official competition provide clubs with money and so on... In my opinion This game should be as real as it`s possible to be... And if you don`t like that top clubs will earn more, so do that in all leagues would be the same money earnings... Doesn`t matter it`s div.1 or div.7.... Just if you wanna that everything would be so easy like in your dreams and fantasies so let it be... I wont argue anymore...

ZyZla - ZyZlūnas ZyZlavotas ~c(=
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Date: 4/5/2008 12:40:56 PM
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i'm in divisio III but i agree with you.. this tournament shoud be with training minutes..

From: Iordanou

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Date: 4/5/2008 1:20:44 PM
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Europe could have many clubs in that competition, lets divide them:) - good point

If you play international cup, you represent your country - that means you have to calculate and it will not be easy even on that point you are telling -

even if you will have a strong team and have an ambition to go far in the internacional cup, you have to think if will not be wasting of a money to lose national cup - because in the international cup will be always possibility to lose, that means you can lose both if you think bad.

From: Bevzil

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Date: 4/5/2008 1:26:04 PM
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Well, as a GM, I think you should be far more objective... You're taking all this too serious... And if you don't agree with someone, you are acting childish... For example, this:

Just if you wanna that everything would be so easy like in your dreams and fantasies so let it be... I wont argue anymore..


This doesn't sound like the words of GM...

On topic: There is already huge advantage for the Div I teams... I know, since my team is one of them... And we don't need this gap to become even larger... You're talking about real life... Well, in real life there's also a money from sponsors, and in real life the greatest players (take Ronaldinho as an example) can play crappy... In BB, the best players always performs well, until they're 33 or so... So, there should be realism, but not by any means necessary... Don't get me wrong, I'm not offending you, but I noticed that you're too emotional when it comes to disagreement with someone, and there's no reason for that...

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Date: 4/5/2008 1:32:31 PM
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In BB, the best players always performs well


Not necessarily - that's what Game Shape is for.

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From: Bevzil

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Date: 4/5/2008 1:32:57 PM
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even if you will have a strong team and have an ambition to go far in the internacional cup, you have to think if will not be wasting of a money to lose national cup - because in the international cup will be always possibility to lose, that means you can lose both if you think bad.


There is a chance that you don't drop out the Cup, there's always plenty of bots around :) But I would be in really big advantage if I could train 7-8 players per week, and that's not fair... Maybe that International Cup can take place after all National Cups end, and the teams plays the games instead of Scrimmages...

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Date: 4/5/2008 1:35:01 PM
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In BB, the best players always performs well




Not necessarily - that's what Game Shape is for.


Well, let's say it this way: If you can get to the International Cup, you can manage the GS also :)

From: Iordanou

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Date: 4/5/2008 1:53:39 PM
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you will have more responsibility for more trophies if you will play so many cups, don't you think?:)

that means you will need more players with more wages and if you will train any position - you will train on every event the same position, that means you will train same type of players, but just some more of them - so you have no tactical advantage - I must get in at first.

At second - 5-6 or 7-8 doesn't sound like so big difference for the aditional wages which you'll have to pay for players in both cups, wake up:)

From: Bevzil

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Date: 4/5/2008 2:23:35 PM
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Today I earned 257 000 $ from my league game, so a 40-50k more for wages would not be a problem for me :) And benefit of 2 more trainees would bring me much much more...

From: Iordanou

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Date: 4/5/2008 2:40:30 PM
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the wages will be harder by the time, you will see - there are no legendary players on the market, because we didn't train them - for now:)

noone tells that clever manager with good tactical skills will not benefit from that - I'm just telling that the benefit will not be so big, so will not be impossible to beat you in the league in future - easily

because in the end - everything depends on luck in the int.cup

and you can even think so bad that you'll get a priority with some players to international cup and lose on national cup, because players was on the bench

see - the realism is the best way in that case

Last edited by Iordanou at 4/5/2008 2:42:27 PM

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