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The only way this will possibly work is if there is zero chance of the two teams interacting at all. They can't get players from each other, they can't play each other, I would say don't even let them scrimmage. As long as the two teams are in the same "world", there is going to be some chance that they'll interact. The two teams don't even have to interact directly. Maybe the two teams have national team players for competing countries. Even the potential for a conflict of interest is all too obvious.

There's a reason that real life sports leagues implemented rules to prevent owners having a stake in more than one team at the same time. In order for accounts to have more than one team, the safest arrangement - really, the only safe measure to avert gaming the system - is to have two different worlds, entirely cut off from each other.

I can already tell you that, as a Supporter, I wouldn't go for this, at least not immediately. Aside from not wanting to spend more money on the game, I have enough of a challenge already with just the one team.

If there are only 40,000+ users of the main game right now, how many users want a second team? 5,000? 2,000? Less? The demand for a feature like this should be a key determinant of whether it gets off the ground, and that even before answering all the logistical and mechanical questions.

This whole Utopia idea is really bad, why would we open up another country if there are dozens that need to be filled. A new game world would cannibalize the game, as many teams would probably disappear (I have a sneaking suspicion that some countries are just outlets of medium nations).

A long long time ago, I suggested to put a second team in the same account, so it is clear who the team owner is. In addition it would be extremely easy to block teams in one account to interact (buying, selling players) with each other.

Allow us to buy a second team in a country with less than 100 users (first come, first serve), if all countries are filled up raise the limit to 200 or so. 100 users is a borderline "playable" community - however put teams in the lowest possible division to "save" them from constant dissapointment (i.e. getting slaughtered every game, without being able to prevent it).

the new nation "utopia" solved basically every problem

2 "utopia" will be made up of the best managers so be really competitive

micronation problem fixed

3 "utopia" doesnt have an u21 or nt team

4 "utopia" doesnt get to send anyone to the b3

7 both teams must remain supporters or the utopia team goes bot in 1 week = more income for bb hooray

i cant see a single problem remaining anything i missed???

Those points are really bad.

2 -> especially in connection with 7, this will lead "Utopia" to be a rich peoples country, ~$80 per year + fee for the second team? not the best, but the people with deep pockets will populate Utopia.

3 -> meh, why would I want to train players then?

4 -> meh, why would I want to be uber competitive then?

7 -> too expensive, supporter as it is needs to be cheaper anyway, but thats a different story...

Last edited by Knecht at 3/4/2013 5:53:09 AM

my idea was 2 make lots of extra $$$ 4 the bbs

u only get a team in utopia if u r a supporter

if u lose ur real wld team or it stops being supported u also lose ur utopia team

maybe the utopia team has 2 be supporter as well or maybe optional not sure which way would make more $$$

Game times and forum languages.

already said default 2 the biggest

so game time = spainish

language = english

good points

but the aim was 2 make more money 4 bb

the aim would be 2 have 1000 peeps buy supporter so they would get a second team = enough extra income 2 make profit & have a bit more development done on the game

dont see why we need 0 interations, no league games, no b3, no cup & no transfers for sure

but why no pls or scrimmages? how does that advance anything except fun?

2nd world totally cut off on a seperate server would be great 2 but i dont see it

ur points r really bad

if u lived in say tounes or pakistan would u like 2 have ur nation dominated by rich players from usa who dont even speak ur language?

u train players because it is fun, profitable & a good way 2 improve ur team ur telling me every person that trains does it 4 their national teams?

why would u want to compete, duh 2 win, u think every player of the 40k only tries 2 win because of the b3

dude u r so elitist u have lost touch with reality

if u lived in say tounes or pakistan would u like 2 have ur nation dominated by rich players from usa who dont even speak ur language?

Well it was your idea to unlock a second team for double supporter payment (sic!) plus additional fee. Chances are slim to find Pakistanis who would accept this offer. So much for the elitist accusation...

I like the idea of Utopia but maybe only open up new teams in countries with less then a certain number of teams. So only open them up in countries with less then 50 teams to start. And when all those are full consider opening them up to 100 and so on. Means those countries with a very small talent pool can grow a bit from there. Also means the stronger nations don't get a huge influx of teams to boost their talent pool more.

10 years ago india was top 10 in the world 4 millionaires, china is now

just cause a country is poor doesnt mean every1 in it is so ur argument is invalid

& it isn't even relevant this is a pointles straw man agrument

the double supporter lets any1 who is willing 2 pay have a 2nd team in a new nation it doesnt wreck the current small nations

all i want is 4 bb 2 make $$$ but keep 2 their policy of an even playing field

sry mickyster i just dont understand ur suggestion

Allow the 2nd teams but only allowed in smaller counties. So it helps those places get larger.
In battrick they allowed members to have a 2nd franchise team and opened them up in counties to a set number.

So to start they could only allow them in counties with less then 50 active teams upto that 50. Then if demand is there move it to 100. So the bigger countries don't get flooded with more teams and it builds the smaller nations which will help their Nt sides etc as there are more players drafted and trained.