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From: dhoff

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Date: 8/21/2008 4:09:53 PM
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Income
Match revenue - 180k
TV Contract - 35k
Merchandise - 45k

Total - 260k

Expenditure
Salaries - 200k
Staff - 53k
Scouting costs - 20k

Total - 273k

Net Profit/Loss - (13k)

If you're counting scouting costs as an expenditure, then you have to count the income from selling drafted players as income.

From: Sparkle

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Date: 8/21/2008 7:59:52 PM
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Income from drafted players was a zero. Last seasons draft for some reason was the worst one of all. I knew I drafted a 5 star PG, only to see his salary under 3k. Surprising to say the least.

@Coco,
The fact that you've already dismissed this thread as 'pointless' indicates there is no room for discussion and you have already drawn your conclusions. So I guess further points would be....pointless.

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Date: 8/21/2008 9:35:58 PM
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If you're counting scouting costs as an expenditure, then you have to count the income from selling drafted players as income.


That is not true at all. He is referencing weekly income, and even if he had sold some drafted players that would be a one time occurence.

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Date: 8/21/2008 9:44:10 PM
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And what's the problem,therefore?This economic situation is provisional,in two season it will change


The problem "therefore" is that in two seasons the top teams will have expanded the gap and be even more difficult to catch. Is this game really going to be much fun for the next two seasons if our goal is to simply survive while we wait?

And scouting costs if your team is on the top in tuor country is a little bit useless,because with an high choice in the draft you must to be lucky to take a good player


This is not necessarily the case. If we cannot afford to buy players anymore than the only hope to improve the team is training and drafting. Spending half of the maximum scouting cost is hardly "useless."

Besides...if everyone thinks like you then nobody is scouting and he will get a good pick.

Regardless, what do you think he could accomplish differently if he saved that 20k a week? What new player is he going to buy with that?

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45730.50 in reply to 45730.48
Date: 8/21/2008 9:45:47 PM
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If you're counting scouting costs as an expenditure, then you have to count the income from selling drafted players as income.


That is not true at all. He is referencing weekly income, and even if he had sold some drafted players that would be a one time occurence.

It is quite true. Tell me, why does anyone pay for scouting? Either to sell those players, which provides income, or to train those players, which means they save money that they otherwise would've spent on the transfer list.

Nice try, though.

From: Sparkle

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Date: 8/21/2008 10:53:29 PM
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I think you may have missed Kingsblade's previous post, which was just a minute before yours. He has detailed the reasons for scouting expenditure. He is also correct in stating that transfer income shouldn't be included as we are referring to weekly profit and loss.

The 'either sell or train your trainees' comes from the assumption that you do indeed score a good trainee. You cannot plan for such things as it is a lottery depending on how much your league mates are investing, and the quality of the draft itself. For example, last season's draft for the top league was the worst so far in BB. I managed to pull one of my top picks who was a 5 star player, and it turned out his salary was below 3k. Who would have believed it? He won't sell for more than a few pennies.



Last edited by Sparkle at 8/21/2008 10:54:50 PM

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Date: 8/22/2008 3:06:48 AM
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Nice try, though.


I love how you write a nonsensical reply and then write the condescending sentence above afterwards. Well done.

Since you are clearly such a superior mind perhaps you can explain how draft picks generate weekly income. I only get to draft once per season, so I am at a complete loss trying to understand how you manage to do it every week. What is your secret? If I knew how to do that I would catch up to Torooo in no time.

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Date: 8/22/2008 3:29:31 AM
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That issn't really the point though. The discussion had to do with predictable weekly numbers, ie. expenses vs income. It is not the same thing and you know it, you are just taking his side to argue. I know what they teach at Wake :)

Furthermore, including money from the sale of players as even general income is debateable because while you have increased your cash on hand you have expended an asset to do so.

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