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Date: 3/28/2008 4:50:21 PM
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1- How solid is the evidence that there really is any difference between different training types in the training speed for the primary skill?

Quite solid... defense (both inside and outside) is slower than (at least) most of the others.
To my experience (i train C and PF): ID > IS > Reb
(> means slower:) )

5- Will a player train equally fast for, say, IS at C and PF respectively, considering that IS is apparently relatively more important at the C position than at PF?

The rules claim that players playing at least 48 minutes in the trained positions get THE MAXIMUM BENEFIT from the training... if the training speed is different for the two positions... well, that statement would, at least, be very ambiguous :)

6- I'd appreciate a link to a good post that describes the exact relation between age and training speed.

Height also influences the training speed and the training speed itself is changing every season foe the moment... I am afraid it will take a while before we get to know that :)

Last edited by Newton07 at 3/28/2008 4:54:51 PM

From: Kermmy

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Date: 3/29/2008 1:06:22 PM
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Just saying, I think it's good news to see a guy who only played 40 minutes pop. It shows that the training curve might not be as steep as some people think.


The reverse can also be said that your players were sooooo close to the next level that any amount of minutes above a certain amount (30 for example) would have been enough for them to pop.

This doesn't prove anything about training curve steepness at those minutes, IMO.

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I have a 18yo (211cm) trainee who had a pop in rebounding with more than 48 minutes. The next week he had a second pop still in rebounding with only 41 minutes...

I think this proves something :)

I forgot... both weeks I trained rebounding for C and PF.

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Na it doesn't. 18 years old players train very fast in rebounding, popping twice in a row isn't very special, so he could even have popped with 20 minutes maybe.

Try to give 1 player of 18 years old 24 weekly minutes 4 weeks in a row with rebounding training, see what will be the effect. It's probably the only way to check it.

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It proves that he is 18 and trains very fast. His first pop at full training put him up high enough in that level that all he needed was another 41 minutes the next week to level again. After that second pop, he was probably at lvl.01 or some very low part of the next level.

You would have to train at 41 minutes a week for numerous successive weeks to get a read on how much is lost at those minutes.

I am not saying that the rate is extremely lower at 41 minutes, just we have no real idea, without extensive research, what the lose is. Your example is an example of fortunate level fractions that gave you those 2 pops in successive weeks with one week being at sub-optimal minutes.

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Try to give 1 player of 18 years old 24 weekly minutes 4 weeks in a row with rebounding training, see what will be the effect. It's probably the only way to check it.

no thanks ;)

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I have 8 trainers, and my traning for OS for wingmen (SG, SF) was exactly 3 weeks.
cheers!

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You mean a level 8 trainer?

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