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From: Kermmy

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Date: 3/29/2008 1:06:22 PM
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Just saying, I think it's good news to see a guy who only played 40 minutes pop. It shows that the training curve might not be as steep as some people think.


The reverse can also be said that your players were sooooo close to the next level that any amount of minutes above a certain amount (30 for example) would have been enough for them to pop.

This doesn't prove anything about training curve steepness at those minutes, IMO.

From: Newton07

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I have a 18yo (211cm) trainee who had a pop in rebounding with more than 48 minutes. The next week he had a second pop still in rebounding with only 41 minutes...

I think this proves something :)

I forgot... both weeks I trained rebounding for C and PF.

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Na it doesn't. 18 years old players train very fast in rebounding, popping twice in a row isn't very special, so he could even have popped with 20 minutes maybe.

Try to give 1 player of 18 years old 24 weekly minutes 4 weeks in a row with rebounding training, see what will be the effect. It's probably the only way to check it.

From: Kermmy

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It proves that he is 18 and trains very fast. His first pop at full training put him up high enough in that level that all he needed was another 41 minutes the next week to level again. After that second pop, he was probably at lvl.01 or some very low part of the next level.

You would have to train at 41 minutes a week for numerous successive weeks to get a read on how much is lost at those minutes.

I am not saying that the rate is extremely lower at 41 minutes, just we have no real idea, without extensive research, what the lose is. Your example is an example of fortunate level fractions that gave you those 2 pops in successive weeks with one week being at sub-optimal minutes.

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Date: 3/29/2008 7:43:20 PM
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Try to give 1 player of 18 years old 24 weekly minutes 4 weeks in a row with rebounding training, see what will be the effect. It's probably the only way to check it.

no thanks ;)

From: Ksiuu

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Date: 3/31/2008 8:36:28 AM
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I have 8 trainers, and my traning for OS for wingmen (SG, SF) was exactly 3 weeks.
cheers!

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Date: 3/31/2008 8:57:09 AM
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You mean a level 8 trainer?

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
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Date: 3/31/2008 12:21:28 PM
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You mean a level 8 trainer?

yep!

From: GrFlur
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just my 0,02

Gerard Canyella Center 2,18 20 years old

Pop up Rebounds from 5-6
2nd week after pop up 7 with a lvl 10 trainer and training ALL TEAM (always playing 48+ and 96-)

Howl to the Moon, you won't regret it.
From: Huzzel
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Date: 4/4/2008 5:18:29 AM
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any new data this week? to me it seems that training speed decreased a lot after the last change. Difficult to say though after only 2 weeks of training.

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Date: 4/4/2008 5:29:46 AM
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I trained two weeks stamina, all young players got 2 pops all older players (23+) got at least one pop, some two. Lvl 9 coach.

The players who didn't play, bc of injuries, popped as well, but I think that's old information.

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