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& SpicyMcHaggis™ & montblanc:

Well, your teams have, by order mentioned: 11, 12 and 10 players on team, and you are the one who will make judgments on distribution of minutes in team, you don't even have enough players to cover scrimmages

But OK, let me be little bit more constructive concerning tournament play; firstly, in most cases first five rounds of tournaments could be played with mid-quality players (salaries around 7k) without any serious problems, and to have 3-4 players like those doesn't represent such a big expenditure for leading teams, and of course if you are unlucky with the draw you always have an option to put star players in the game, of course that after few rounds games are becoming more serious, but the benefit also, so is quite logical that effort, or repercussions should be bigger.

GS is a little bit different story, but not from minutes played point of view, more because of random effect, so I would also like to see some changes here, and that changes would involved more precise limits for maintaining level of GS, e.g.5 GS falls, 35< stay the same or falls <50, 50< stay the same or rise <70, 70< stay the same or falls <90, >90 falls.

I really don't understand what you want, arcade, I've always found most interesting the reality of BB, with all of it's obstacles, e.g. I made mistakes in a way I've run my team, and had to change conception at least twice, but that is the main reason for remaining interested, almost like I was when starting.

P.S. Since you, Rijswijker, started this three in a row comments, I'm replying to you, but I know that you are embracing challenge, so for giving you an answer I've tried to be more constructive in my opinion

Last edited by LA-Kasie K. at 10/1/2009 8:38:16 AM

& SpicyMcHaggis™ & montblanc:

Well, your teams have, by order mentioned: 11, 12 and 10 players on team, and you are the one who will make judgments on distribution of minutes in team, you don't even have enough players to cover scrimmages

But OK, let me be little bit more constructive concerning tournament play; firstly, in most cases first five rounds of tournaments could be played with mid-quality players (salaries around 7k) without any serious problems, and to have 3-4 players like those doesn't represent such a big expenditure for leading teams, and of course if you are unlucky with the draw you always have an option to put star players in the game, of course that after few rounds games are becoming more serious, but the benefit also, so is quite logical that effort, or repercussions should be bigger.

The fact that you call a 7k salary guy a "mid-quality" player tells me that you don't have a very clear picture of the level of competition in the top leagues in BB (especially Spain and Italy).

LOL,

You are the pearl among those before mentioned, semi-farm team with two 100k players, and you think that you are the right person to talk about "good or poor management issues", well, I don't know how did you grasp the whole BB idea, but I can tell you that it's completely different from the way I did.

P.S. @EGMs: sorry, but I needed to answer that in this way

Okay, but the main point is still the same.

No, it's not. It completely different.

But do you have suggestion about minute managing then? I would really like to hear one.

I really don't understand what most people that have disagreed with you, want, that all of players on their team has proficient GS all of the time, well, that wouldn't be any challenge at all.

Well, the initial discussion was about throwing games, and my initial position was that if you have to throw games, there is something that you're not doing quite right.

Of course, like just about anything, BB is a game of choices and trade-offs. You can choose not to bother for one of the competitions and concentrate on the other. However, I still think that maintaining a squad that can play 3 strong games a week has its advantages, but this is apparently just me.

I do not, however, subscribe to the view that teams just have to throw games for one reason or another.

I really don't understand what most people that have disagreed with you, want, that all of players on their team has proficient GS all of the time, well, that wouldn't be any challenge at all.

Well, the initial discussion was about throwing games, and my initial position was that if you have to throw games, there is something that you're not doing quite right.

Yes, but that's same story from different angle, they are throwing it because of maintaining high level of GS.

I have a question referring to that: If player's stamina is high, can you play more minutes per/week? I think that with a guy who has prominent stamina, You can play 80 min week. Am I right?

No.

Then it's all said in second post:

I think, it's hard to make every action, between cup and division but it's that because the problem for the manager is here.You can choose to have a good roster or to have a good medium team for playing every match like it's possible.
But for me, in high level, the problem is to make too the training for with their young players and taking good scoring in same time.

You have to choose one of these options, and just hope for the best. Both of them has own pros and cons.

LOL,

You are the pearl among those before mentioned, semi-farm team with two 100k players, and you think that you are the right person to talk about "good or poor management issues", well, I don't know how did you grasp the whole BB idea, but I can tell you that it's completely different from the way I did.

P.S. @EGMs: sorry, but I needed to answer that in this way

I am a semi-farm team? I have two 100k centers who I don't train, one 77k power forward who I am training in perimeter skills, a few other players, and then 4 rookie 18 year old pg/guards who I have started training this year (because after 7 seasons of training big men I wanted to try something new). So I am a farm team for two players who I don't even train? Are you serious?
If this is the level of discussion when one or two users dare try to bring constructive criticism, then obviously this forum is a waste of time.

Edit: to further underline the stupidity of your statement, I would like to point out that you take my team as an example of poor management (in regards to game shape management and consequent game throwing), and yet this season I have not, nor do I intend to, throw any games. And last season, when I did throw 4 or 5 games, I was one of the top 16 teams in the Cup (in the country with the most BB users in the world), and I came within 3 points of playing the final in an extremely competitive league (and I managed to keep a healthy economy). Would you call that poor management? And if my example isn't enough, I would like to point out that last season's italian league&cup champion threw a handful of games during the season, and has already thrown at least one this season. Do you think that he is an example of poor management (even though he is the best team in Italy)?

Last edited by SpicyMcHaggis™ at 10/1/2009 10:40:22 AM

I have a question referring to that: If player's stamina is high, can you play more minutes per/week? I think that with a guy who has prominent stamina, You can play 80 min week. Am I right?

This was actually exactly my suggestion, which you can find in other recent threads in this forum.