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235487.47 in reply to 235487.42
Date: 2/19/2013 3:20:22 AM
50nudos
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Anyway as a team the 2-3 lowers the overall pressure, making all passes higher quality. meaning more higher quality/open shots....everywhere. This I think is part of the flaw of why its so hard to get to work.
Conversely 3-2 ups pressure everywhere...making all the passing harder, more probablitly of TOs, looseball (chance to get steal) etc....and probably in the individual matchups there is a boost that ups how much steals they get too. Insult to injury that one single stat (OD, they should change it to PED stat for how awesome it is) ALSO helps you pressure the shot directly. So gives you a bunch of chances to force turnovers (get the ball) and stops outside shots too.....the RB boost of 2-3 zone only helps you keep the ball AFTER the opponent got an open shot. Not a good recipe.


On the USA-Offsite, which many here don't have access to, Wozzvt has done a tremendous amount of statistical analysis for shot distribution of offenses/defenses and game ratings as they correlate to in game results. I believe there was analysis to show that the game flow to opponent outside defense ratio can loosely predict the amount of assists. Uncontested/assisted shots are completed at a higher percentage than contested/unassisted shots from anywhere on the floor even if the player shooting has a sizeable advantage over the defender contesting the shot.

If facing an look inside attack, 3-2 would accomplish 2 major goals and have 2 minor flaws.
- (Goal) More pressure on ballhandlers creates fewer uncontested/assisted shots
- (Goal) Drives by guards would be contested by PF and C inside defense and shot blocking
- (Flaw) Lower inside defense for contested shots
- (Flaw) Less rebounding for missed shots

The lower inside defense would be offset by fewer uncontested shots. Again, I don't have much experience on higher levels, but this is how I understood previous analysis and discussions from higher level players (including Wolph).


So, why not maximizing the pressure with 1-3-1 zone?

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235487.48 in reply to 235487.17
Date: 2/23/2013 5:25:33 AM
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id love to play scrimage with u while u defending my LI with 3-2 zone:D

In my opinions 3-2 is only good if oponent has like awfull or inept offensiver flow, as this happens on lower levels. if he has high driving and passing everywhere ur team just gets destroyed with like 75 percenty shooting for bigs and like 80 percent assited shots:D i have like 73 percent shooting for my bigs over this season with not so spectacular inside shots (look at the game ratings) only because i have 3 players with 15 passing on my starting lineup sometimes, mostly 2 cause of training:D

when playing against 2-3 zones, i actually fear them. looking diown and praying that guy playing 2-3 zone wont come to the final. cause my 75 p[ercent shooting becomes like 45 for bigs against 2-3 zones, and my guards forced to take mid range jumpers with like 6jr lol.....

Last edited by Gajus Julijus Cezaris at 2/23/2013 5:29:19 AM

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235487.49 in reply to 235487.48
Date: 2/23/2013 7:15:36 AM
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As I have said before, its a situational tactic. Just like everything else in this game, it takes judgement to decide. You would not be one of the teams I would play this tactic against, because you have very high flow for your level of play. But if you can out-pressure your opponent's flow, 3-2 vs. LI can be effective. It doesnt have to necessarily be 3, or 4. Just low enough to where your OD has the advantage.

As far as the 2-3 zones, I wouldnt fear them as much as you do with your team. Your contested IS percentage may go down, but your JS% and 3pt% will go up dramatically, and you will pretty much have your way with moving the ball, resulting in uncontested IS. An uncontested shot is an uncontested shot, regardless of your opponent's ID, and to contest shots, you have to have OD.


Last edited by yeppers at 2/23/2013 7:17:03 AM