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200170.477 in reply to 200170.476
Date: 1/15/2012 7:09:26 AM
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True! Who knows? Too many variables in arena calculation. :P

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200170.478 in reply to 200170.473
Date: 1/15/2012 7:42:24 AM
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The BBs have stated before that those who finish 4th will earn more in arena income next season to cover the costs of playoffs compare to those finishing 5th.



Two problems. First this is like the Arabia Felx, everyone has heard of it but no-one has actually seen it.

Second even if it was true that you get a substantial income raise each week, maybe $20,000 a week, which I don't believe at all.

But even if it was true which would you rather have?

$200,000 right now that you can see and invest in arena seats, new staff, players for the next season etc.

or

$20,000 a week maybe coming in next season assuming your arena is very well organised.

I think every single non-noob player in the game knows without a doubt that unless you have a reasonable chance of upsetting the top seed that 5th is better than 3rd or 4th. Why is 5th so clearly better than 3rd or 4th?

An example:

These are the league averages from the ABBL this week.

League Averages from Last Week Expenses Revenue
Player Salaries: $ 613 052 Attendance: $ 498 453
Staff Salaries: $ 63 667 Merchandise: $ 89 906
Scouting: $ 4 687 TV Contract: $ 201 476
Total: $ 681 406 Total: $ 789 835
League Average Net Income: $ 108 429

So teams spend roughly $600,000 a week on salaries and get back roughly $500,000 per home game.

The week they come 5th they save $600,000 but don't get the $500,000 game income. So it is $100,000 BETTER than a normal week.

The week they come 3rd or 4th they pay their $600,000 salaries and get 1/3 of the $500,000 revenue or about $170,000 so they are $330,000 WORSE off than usual.

So the team coming 5th in the ABBL is $430,000 better off right away. The team coming 3rd or 4th has the assurance from the BBs that somewhere down the line they will have some improved income...maybe.

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200170.479 in reply to 200170.478
Date: 1/15/2012 7:53:42 AM
Koopasaurus
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I'll want to come 5th any day of the week. It is clearly better.
$430k lump sum right now is better then $500k - $600k over 11 weeks.

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200170.480 in reply to 200170.478
Date: 1/15/2012 8:15:05 AM
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Come on mate, no need to only take the first half of my statement. Obviously I meant it as a grain of a salt. BBs are too stubborn to admit their mistakes. So much suggestions to curb this, tanking, useless draft picks and so much more but no action has been taken so far. Maybe the BBs want the game to be run like this or they are developing something. Oh well, not like it bothers me...

Last edited by Whitebeard at 1/15/2012 8:17:28 AM

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200170.481 in reply to 200170.480
Date: 1/15/2012 9:42:56 AM
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I wasn't upset or trying to put you down or anything all I am saying is even if their claim is correct, which I doubt, it is still far better to be 5th than 3rd or 4th unless you have a reasonable chance to knock off 1st or 2nd. It is silly. Making the playoffs should be financially awesome.

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Date: 1/15/2012 3:29:19 PM
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Good game inprovement ideas there guys.

From a financial aspect it also seems that you are better off coming 6th rather than 4th.

Because assuming the results go as per ladder psotions, you get 2/3 & 1/3 of attendances for 6th versus 1/3 of an attendance for 4th.

Ridiculas

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200170.483 in reply to 200170.482
Date: 1/15/2012 5:12:31 PM
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I agree, however the potential danger of a couple of injuries causing you to relegate when you are in a easy and safe series (see Koopasaurus vs South Brisbane Vultures for an example) can be seen as compensation for the obvious financial benefits.

On the other hand there is no penalty for coming 5th except the specter of the Arabia Phoenix haunting you the next season.

Last edited by yodabig at 1/15/2012 5:13:22 PM

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200170.484 in reply to 200170.482
Date: 1/15/2012 5:12:33 PM
Koopasaurus
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well I'd rather come 3rd or 4th then come 6th, even if it meant a 430k difference.
Thats how scary it is this season in the relegation series...

From: yodabig

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200170.485 in reply to 200170.483
Date: 1/15/2012 5:14:46 PM
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I agree, however the potential danger of a couple of injuries causing you to relegate when you are in a easy and safe series (see Koopasaurus vs South Brisbane Vultures for an example) can be seen as compensation for the obvious financial benefits.

On the other hand there is no penalty for coming 5th except the specter of the Arabia Phoenix haunting you the next season.


Koop is correct, this season is potentially a risky time to be 6th, one week to see what moves Zazz, Iwen and Hadders make.

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200170.486 in reply to 200170.485
Date: 1/15/2012 9:21:46 PM
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Valid point

Id much rather finish 4th than 6th.

Both Iwen and Shanmag scare me lots and you are right an injury to Pedrosa or a lesser starter, would be horrible for HA.

Shanmag has put up a couple of posts which highlight her obvious dislike of me, so I fully expect her to dip into her buldging vault.

Rumour has it that she has so much cash that she has to vacuum seal it, so that it fits into the vault

I do have another card to play but will wait to see who plays what cards first and or still have the capacity to cover an injury

Happy to swap ladder positions with BHB or Koops if it was Possible.

This week should be about gameshapes and protecting players from injury

Have dwelled abit on a few stupid losses that have occurred this season which would have saved HA from this situation


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200170.487 in reply to 200170.486
Date: 1/15/2012 9:47:20 PM
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What about your two lucky wins against me? They may have saved you from a date with Duffman!

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