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the point is magic johnson did his thing that is on the court, whatever happens outside of the basketball court he doesnt or have no responsible to it, meaning his job is to win , make the team turn heads , make a name for the team, make the team notice

Not really. his biggest inpact was as a publicity stunt (i.e. PR). I bet you that there is no PR guy in the world that is good enough to make international media broadcast even the shortest parts of swedish league games, i.e. even if he contributed both off and on the fieldsdd he was still not worth his money.

those people who needs to put their work together to make the thing a profit didnt exactly did their job rightly, because on the first place they got to analyze how it goes.

they just ask the guy to flew over to them and thats it! its like a prayer " may gad help us " and didnt do the needed amount of work that should be done.

Its sounds like you know a lot of Borås, or are you just guessing to try to prove a point?

they can give him a contract which the base money is acceptable to him and the others are in terms of bonus or in this case should also allow him to do marketing stuff etc.

Ok, you are just guessing. They did use him for a lot of publicity, but the level of the Swedih first league is simply not high enough to make it work, which is exactly my point.

dude! get me clear here, level 10 meaning the best and he does a work of a lower guy! get it straight here. isnt it stupid to hire and pay someone 20k a week and the only thing i see is what! a struggling attendance and merchandise sales that couldnt even hit up! my sales increase is not even 25% of his salary

Yes, if that's what you see it is stupid, and you should then take this wisdom to hire someone that is more valuble for your team. The great thing with this, if you have done your analysis right is that you will suddenly have an advantage on those that just hire a PR10 without calculating.

Finally, I think you wastly exagerate what a RL PR guy can do, even though he "knows marketing and all". Not even the best of the best would make Borås a profitable team, even though they where playing in swedens first division.

Relax mate, and be happy that you thnk you have found out something that will give you an in game advantage over your oponents.

hi, sorry to reply just now. i understand what your pointing out!

you said " Not really. his biggest inpact was as a publicity stunt (i.e. PR). I bet you that there is no PR guy in the world that is good enough to make international media broadcast even the shortest parts of swedish league games, i.e. even if he contributed both off and on the fieldsdd he was still not worth his money. :)
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"Ok, you are just guessing. They did use him for a lot of publicity, but the level of the Swedih first league is simply not high enough to make it work, which is exactly my point."

my answer is the publicity stunt isnt his thing to do, its like his the weapon, but who uses him, the basketball team that hire him or who does the promotion isnt it the PR guy. so if the one who uses the gun is a complete idiot to an avaerage guy probably even if you use a whole clip you might not even hit 50% on a killing spree.

as i say methods here differs, he might have done his best or all his abilities but its not just working.

so am i to assume that in bb world all level 10 staff doesnt work the same way in giving results, but i once ask why salary differs between level 10 guys of same work and there was who one clearly answered he just ask less, and that there is no hidden skill that differs the higher salary guy to do more results than the one who wants less.

as i pointed out before, im betting thats the number one league in swedish league your pertaining about and compare to nba the market in the swedish world havent got enough supporters and even probably wowed a lot to come and watch. so again this analysis might again fall to the PR guy since he should or can analyze the market already unless on 3 things

1) the guy is not swedish and is new to the swedish market or not familiar
2) his swedish but doesnt know the market share ( he can do analysis believe me)
3.) probably he knows and worked on the numbers but the boss just coudlnt say no to a magic johnson coming to the swedish league. ( why did he hire the guy anyway)

as going back, as i did ask before im claiming that all division 1 leagues in bb's im presume to have the same markets ( all big ), fans , growth opportunity. from your claiming am i correct to assume that it means that not all division 1 have the same market to work with that probably spain, italy , china or wherever has better than mine while i have better markets than lets say for example philippines, japan etc.

because if that is so then case close already! because my level 10 guy is working his ass off on a market than had actually small potential or has reached its soft cap as we use to say.

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magic johnson isnt the PR guy as we speak, but his being use by the teams PR guy. am i pointing out is this guy if he doesnt know how to use magic johnson properly then its a problem.

but are level 10 PR guy assuming even with the highest level in bb world stand to be incompetent on some areas as others do so with other areas of work?

for i know they are all the same.

Last edited by Shoei at 7/22/2008 9:19:46 AM

im going to say this , im sorry to all but this pisses me off

he said "Yes, if that's what you see it is stupid, and you should then take this wisdom to hire someone that is more valuble for your team. The great thing with this, if you have done your analysis right is that you will suddenly have an advantage on those that just hire a PR10 without calculating. :)"

what can be greater more here in bb world than a level 10 is there a level 11 here?
and your telling that my analysis are wrong? a lot of people are already saying that level 9 isnt as good as level 10. now tell me how do i understand that advantage your claiming . . .

also this post of mne has been here for quite some time and i barely even get a answer that suits or satisfy not just the question but curiosity itself.

i cant seem to see what way your going, because last time i check there is no hidden skill for staffs , please correct me here if im wrong. so what advantage are you saying we are talking about staff here so stick with the topic pls

no offense but i feel right now your all talk back this up please or else i might say something not nice!

because with all your babblings there i cant get any substance at all.

lastly
you said

"I bet you that there is no PR guy in the world that is good enough to make international media broadcast even the shortest parts of swedish league games, i.e. even if he contributed both off and on the fieldsdd he was still not worth his money. :)"


wow you seem to be an expert in the field of swedish or should i say international media markets tha you can claim this,

pls pls enlighten me more, can i ask what is the probability market that an nba team stands against soccer if there is one nba team to be establish in europe

also another a much simpler thing, what the difference in market prfitabilty in terms of marketing on tv since you said broadcast does a eufa league has over a serie A

oh oh i might be worng since probably the markets are not the same, but you seem an expert.

or one more thing what impact does carlsberg beer has advertising over a soccer league game as a sponsor over just doing commercial TV for a soccer team.

just some of my questions pls!

Hey Cat,what your girl or boyfriend is saying about your new friend called "BB Global Thread screw level 10 PR"?!?..enjoy the game bro!!:-)

Cheers

hey will!

im enjoying the game really

that is why i am so into this that i really like to understand a lot of things!

sadly i dont have a gf now, and definitely im not looking for a guy! but if there is a girl interesting to get to know here in bb world im open about it hahahah

thanks mate!

Unfortunately your posts where a little bit too unstructured for me, and I think I did not really understand about half of it, so I think I better not not answer as it will only lead to confusion on both sides I guess.

Anyway, I must comment on one thing:

I bet you that there is no PR guy in the world that is good enough to make international media broadcast even the shortest parts of swedish league games, i.e. even if he contributed both off and on the field he was still not worth his money.

wow you seem to be an expert in the field of swedish or should i say international media markets tha you can claim this,

Not really, this requires only very basic knowledge about the swedish level of basketball and the international market. I believe that anyone with the slightest of knowledge about the swedish league and costs for top marketing guys would agree on my conclusion.

tell me more since its so simple as per your level so someone like me can understand you further, pls just even a concept pls pls

what do you mean unstructured,

because i think people who post either understand whats written and replies, or ask to be more clear in whatever way they question.

but you who doesnt understand the whole thing would even hit a person here saying that i dont know what im talking about. that im wrong

admit you cant back up yourself! to even say my analysis are wrong or i dont know how to make an analysis because i get to be wrong.

id like to hear from you about that ahh simple knowledge come on! try me!


Last edited by Shoei at 7/22/2008 12:05:51 PM

I just have a very hard time following you the way you are writing. It feels like a lot of "loose sentences" that sometimes are quite hard for me to understand and I have a hard time following the logic of your last posts. I guess part of it is because you dont use quoates when quotaing so layout wise it becomes not that "welcoming" and easy to read for me.

The reason why I said that I had a hard time reading your posts was to let you know why I did not answer on your specific questions; I just couldn't as I did not really understand them. I am sorry for that.

The concept can be sumarized in one sentence though: The potential of the swedish league is not high enough to make a top marketing guy payoff.

I dont see the relevance of what your work or age is, but good for you that you like your age, job, and education.

I don't see any point allowing this pointless argument to go on.

If chespirito and CoolCat want to continue please do it elsewhere. BB-Mail, MSN or Skype are available. I don't think the BB community wants to read this type of squabbling.

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