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No offense taken. I will try my team in the cup. At the TDP League, I went up against three Div II.2 teams (one has been promoted to the PPL by the time we met at the TDP Finals) and a PPL team (piloted by one of the U21 aspirants). I went 7-0 in that tournament. Its only been less than a season but I feel that Im headed at the right direction. I was a Div IV team last season and I upset two PPL teams. I am trying to stir up debate hoping to point our national teams towards being built to upset stronger national teams.

Hindi uubra yung makipagsabayan. Not unless we get farm teams and that is the long term approach. We should continue training players for national teams. In the mean time, since our guards and SFs are not up to par with other nations, I think we should put our heads together and come up with unorthodox builds. Experiment muna. We try the normal approach and we could expect optimistically 4-4 finishes. Ano ang mawawala sa atin kung mag-isip tayo outside the box.

I already voted but sana pag-isipan ng mga kandidato lalo na yung mananalo ang punto ko. Baka pwede po sagutin ninyo ang tanong ko - in Filipino po in case basahin ng mga banyaga ang thread na ito at malintikan tayo.

I think the Philippines deserve a U21 coach who is willing to make the sacrifices he asks from the other managers.

I beg to differ.

In the first place, I never agreed about the "Practice what you preach" thing, wherein i would be training players for NT as well. I never said i'm into that.

I'm saying that I would be finding the best crop of players, then let them train more to be better... it means na member na sila at pagagalingin pa.

Also, how can you say that they are sacrificing? i dunno about your case, but there are others that have one position training, pero di mo naman iko-consider na nag-sacrifice sila... meaning, choice nila yun. Also, in the first place, NT managers never ask for the club managers to do this or do that... Like LA-Ubaldo, he just left a post in the thread then yung mga club managers na ang bahala kung susunod or hindi...

I congratulate you for your achievement.

Although div III team ka, ung stats mo kasi ay halos kapareho lang ng kay jepoi and katcha. Ibig sabihin lang nun ay okay ung training and tactics mo. Kayo ni jepoi, norman black will be the better teams in the future.

Pero kasi, it is not called an upset kung pareho lang kayo ng stats. Theoretically, slowing down the game will result to lower scores. Pero pano kung kalaban mo ay si Jubas, or Hoes, na mas malakas ung teams? Tapos they are both knowledgeable kaya mataas ang enthusiasm and tama ang defensive tactic against you. Kahit na sobrang tama pa ang pag set mo ng lineup and tactics, they would run over you.

Our team kc as of the moment is nasa gitna ng standings. With the proper team management, we can easily get a 4-4 finish if we want to. Pero what I want is to be one of the top teams in the future, dahil malaki naman ang userbase natin. I am building for the future. Kaya nga I am for mentoring eh. How can you expect them to train players for the national teams kung di tama ang training scheme nila, or expect them to stay in the game long enough for their players to be monsters, kung lagi sila talo sa league?

For example, I saw an 18yo MVP with center skills sa forums. He was asking what to do since first season nya. Katcha told him to focus train his player, which i consider a 'wtf' statement kc naman, sobrang labo. How can you expect him to know what that is kung kakasimula lang nya? Do you even know kung alam man lang nya about having a trainer?

I sent him a bb-mail to explain to him how what training he could use to maximize the use of his player. I helped him set up a scheme to train not only the prospect but some of his players as well. And enthu management. He will more likely win his league, kaya mag stay siya for seasons to come. We meanwhile should expect to have a great player for the national team.

I have already seen 2 multi skilled players and have contacted their owners about their development. If they learn more about the game, then hindi masasayang ang players and we should get super SFs in the future.

Your team says a lot about you as a manager.

If you cannot train your players to be the best, then how can you expect other owners to train their players properly for the NT?

If you remember this, http://www.buzzerbeater.com/BBWeb/forum/read.aspx?thread=..., I clearly said that i will win over you if ever we face each other. This should have given you plenty of time to set up your team to be better and time to learn from your mistakes, and clearly you haven't, despite your 'experience.'

If you look at ADMU, or Fil-Homes, they have started at a much later date than you, and their teams are stronger or equal lang compared to yours. How do you expect to win games with the NT, kung di ka manalo sa sarili mong team?

Last edited by JSmoove at 2/27/2009 6:29:37 AM

Hey no personal attacks please. Di pwede magmoderate si Katcha kasi kandidato sha eh.

Anyway balik kay JSmoove

from supahstah:

Jsmoove - How can you say that you are successful with the fact that you lost in your semifinals last season? How do you intend to train our younger players if you do not have them yourself?

And your comments on this as well please:

I think the Philippines deserve a U21 coach who is willing to make the sacrifices he asks from the other managers.

Last edited by Devastator at 2/27/2009 6:20:46 AM

Again, this boils down to training.

You know blue from TDP diba? He posted 2 guards who should be the future of our team, if trained properly. Kaya i helped him create a plan to train both his picks and have a better squad as well. He could PM me every week or every pop-up, para ma monitor ung progress ng players.

If we can have a mentoring program, managers would be more knowledgeable and they should be enticed to play longer and pay attention to their team more, since they would be winning games. Tapos their players will get trained pa. Thus, we can get the guards and centers with the highest skills, in their best form. Mahirap naman kasi to rely on what we have and expect a player with center skills with no outside skills to guard outside players ng opposing teams.

Tapos for the multi-skilled naman, we could help them create schemes to train their players both sa inside skills and outside skills. Like a PF with center skills tapos with outside shooting. Para we can go Motion and exploit their big men na kulang ang defense. Medyo tricky din kasi you need other young players for this to work. My experience in team management should kick in.

I have Nera and Niembra who could be in the lineup, pero ung height nila prohibits them to train faster. You cannot expect me to throw away seasons of investment in my current players, and long-term planning just to train a player in one position. Siguro kung may farm team ako, and I happen to have a 5k salary, 18yo player there, then sige train one position every week. But I don't.

Kasi, mali ang concept mo of sacrifice. Like I said, I am not asking for other managers to train their player in one position, exclusively. To those who I have mentored, I usually try to find the optimum training for their team that would include the player with potential. Wala naman ako sinasabi na un lang ang train nila. I am merely telling suggesting that they could train that player every week. With the proper team management, they should expect to have a winning team, and us a player for the NT. Sacrifice ba un kung meron sila trophies and a strong team to show for their efforts? I call it investment.

If you cannot train your players to be the best, then how can you expect other owners to train their players properly for the NT?

Who says that all managers train like me?

This should have given you plenty of time to set up your team to be better and time to learn from your mistakes, and clearly you haven't, despite your 'experience.'

Are you pointing out that when you said that very arrogant remark, that i would be preparing for you? I know you are one of the good managers here, but why the hell would I do that? I didn't play this game for you, man.

How do you expect to win games with the NT, kung di ka manalo sa sarili mong team?

I expect to win with the help of the U21 players... It's all about the skills of the players, tactics against the opponents, and dedication of the U21 players' owners to the U21...

Being on top of the league was an achievement in itself.

I also won the Philippine Cup last season, despite going up against Aldo and Jubas consecutively. I might have been lucky, pero this is no small feat. Also, I have managed to have somewhat a winning record for every season that I have played.

This is my definition of success.

Also, if you look at my team, almost all of them are 21 and below, so I train young players every single time. Again, with that experience in training and team management, I can help other owners to develop their players the same way that I did.

Mga Chiefs, maganda ang approach ninyo sa training -- spot the potentials and ask their owners to train them. In a few season, hayop na yung mga players. Agreed po. You will get my vote as the national director for scouting and player development (if ever meron).

But but but... For the U21 manager, we need you to lead whatever we currently have to some decent finish in the U21 tournament (improve on the previous finish). Over several season, our players will improve but our opponents also improve (yung iba mas grabe pa ang training). What we need to develop or to find out is how we can build our national teams and/or exploit the game engine so that our relatively weaker U21 (or NT) can make more noise/upsets in the national tournaments.

If you dont want to expound on your build plan, I understand (we need to keep some things secret). Just tell me if any of you candidates have any build and strategy plans that are not ordinary (eg. typical skills requirement per position)

Would you be open to try what's in the rules regarding pace vs stronger opponents? http://www2.buzzerbeater.org/BBWeb/rules.aspx?nav=Tactics

A slower pace will often result in higher-quality shots, but occasionally will result in bad shots at the end of the shot clock. Fewer possessions in the game also means that scores will be lower, which means that bad teams can stay closer to good ones.

Pansin ko kasi, our U21, NT and a good number of other Pinoy teams, even when alam nila mas malakas ang kalaban, fast pace pa rin ang gamit. Mas meron tayong chance kapag close ang games. Kapag medyo medyo lang team mo at malakas kalaban at binigyan mo siya ng 100 attempts malamang 100+ rin ang puntos niya. Kailangan mo umiskor one point more than him to win --paano na lang kung hindi nga malakas offense mo. Bigyan mo siya ng 80 attempts lang by always "milking the clock" at around 75-90 points lang score nila. Kailanga mo lang makachamba umiskor ng 91 points. Mahirap pa rin pero easier than scoring 100+ points diba?

Lastly, hindi ko po binabalandra achievements ko to boast. Small lang actually nagawa ko but Im trying to illustrate that with a specific build and better understanding ng game pace pwede tayo maka-chamba ala David vs Goliath.

Patanong lang po sa mga candidates...

Nababasa ko dito yung pagkakaroon ng mga farm teams ng ibang bansa para makapag focus train sila ng mga players nila...

Kung tama po ang pagkaintindi ko sa farm teams, pinagsasama nila ang mangilan ngilan sa kanilang mga NT players sa isang team para makapag focus train sila sa isang position...

Ano po ang position nyo regarding sa ganitong klase ng pagpapalakas ng NT?! Sang-ayon ba kayo sa ganitong sistema?! Maiisipan nyo ba na mag-implement ng ganito para lang makapagtrain tayo?!

Saka suggestion lang din pala, mas maganda po siguro kung bawasan natin ng konti ang pag-english natin para maiwasan na din ang pagscout sa atin ng ibang bansa di ba? At least kung magtagalog tayo ay mas mahirap nila yun intindihin kapag naisipan man nila na bumisita sa ating mga threads dito sa BB Pilipinas...