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It will be interesting to see how the changes work out. Nobody but the devs have any idea how it will end up. I'll take a wait and see attitude.

I doubt the Arena changes will make a big difference to me. As long as it's aimed at huge stadiums and not attendance all around, that's ok.

Don't really have a problem with the idea of rewarding teams for having home grown players. In other games I play, there are either foreigner restrictions or increased salaries. At least this is a reward and not a penalty.

However, the draft concept really needs some work. It's easily the weakest part of the game. I've drafted one decent player in 3 seasons and his height is a real liability for his position (PF). For the amount of money I've spent on scouting (5-10k a week), it's been a horrible waste of money. This season I managed to pull a 6th man with the #10 pick. Given that all my scout ratings were 4-5 balls for that position, it's really disappointing to get a lousy player that high up. It's more cost effective to scout no one and pick up trainees in the "backdraft" (when everyone throws their draftees on the TL). It would be so much better to have a youth academy. I'd pay twice the price for it.

I dont think we are going to lay out the formula for you, we have simply outlined the principles we are going to use, i think the mindset you should have for making the decision is something like....ok.. my tv money is going to be set and will be the same for everyone i am competing for, i dont know exactly what it will be....though i can do some research/speculate etc and come up with my best guess and make a decision based upon that.... i mean.. essentially that is the same process you go through in all the other parts of the game, you dont know how the game engine works exactly, but you listen to our general guidance, and come up with your own model etc, and make decisions based upon it. this is not a perfect information game, and shouldnt be.

No - understood... It wasn't meant to read that I was after specifics because as you say at the moment the decisions are based on perception of future changes and trends.

I will simply assume that the divide in TV contract money is not overly different and hopefully done on the relative strength of teams not the amount of users a nation has.

Lets see!!

I see a fairly direct relation between the number of users in a country and the relative strength of its teams. For example, the newest promoted team in Japan d.1 has an average salary of $5000. The newest promoted team in Italy d.1 has an average salary of over $30,000. Not that average salary is the best or only method of defining quality, but it is a start and the suggested method in the game rules for determining which players should play.

I think the reason for this change is to help the better teams from bigger countries compete with the better teams from countries with little or no competition. Because a country has one or two or four good teams doesn't mean it should have a similar revenue stream as a country with 50 or 60 or 100 good teams.

Last edited by somdetsfinest at 6/4/2009 12:59:11 AM

that new changes advertisement in front page is wrong, when i read it, i think BB`s are making mistake, because fans do want go to arena to watch games, not sit at TV.

those people who choose TV instead of being in arena are not fans, they are just people who are looking for another reason to drink beer :P

p.s.
will be there more than 3 TV games in season?

You can drink beer at games too ;)

i know, but TV watchers are just beer drinkers, if they prefer TV more than arena.
these are not fans that now are running from arena to HD TV.
i am saying only the advertisement is wrong :)

I take my family of four to see a game. Even if we sit in the bleachers which are $16 a piece that's 64 bucks, not to mention red ropes, foam fingers, and a couple Manuel Solson jerseys. TV is looking more and more atractive.

i am talking about fans, not family trips (there are not many families where all people like sport, especially one sport)

I see a fairly direct relation between the number of users in a country and the relative strength of its teams. For example, the newest promoted team in Japan d.1 has an average salary of $5000. The newest promoted team in Italy d.1 has an average salary of over $30,000. Not that average salary is the best or only method of defining quality, but it is a start and the suggested method in the game rules for determining which players should play.

I think the reason for this change is to help the better teams from bigger countries compete with the better teams from countries with little or no competition. Because a country has one or two or four good teams doesn't mean it should have a similar revenue stream as a country with 50 or 60 or 100 good teams.

There are today 36 active teams in Thailand and 36 in Japan. There is no doubt in my mind that if we took the top 8 from Thailand and Top 8 from Japan that you guys wouldnt have a representative in the Top4. I also think our closing pack would spring a few surprises.

There is I'm led to believe a hidden ranking stat which I guess could be used or do you think both our countries negotiate the same media deal?

I naturally hope that the monies received are in line with a global picture & my future income is not similar or linked with those that have managed their team with only a domestic outlook in mind.

My point was not whether Japan could beat Thailand mano a mano or which league has the four best teams or how much testosterone I have pumping through my body. My point was that a league is 16 teams and must be measured as such. And that I see a fairly straight correlation between country size and League 1 quality. From BB-stats.org I averaged the team ratings of a few D.1 leagues around the world.

Japan- 7.02
Thailand- 6.23
Brazil- 8.8
Hanguk- 5.6
England- 8.14
Italy- 9.05

By this admittedly simple analysis Japan and Thailand are certainly more similar than Japan and England or Japan and Brazil.

And surely tv revenue should be tied to a "domestic outlook." Where you will be able to make your money (aside from daytrading) will be with merchandise sales from all your NT players and superstars. And selling out your arena for high prices.

Last edited by somdetsfinest at 6/4/2009 7:30:27 AM