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I have read all the arguements, and i must say both views make sense to some extent.
Biddng on your own players is allowed, true, and isn't cheating in any way, but the buyer must be notified that
the current bidder is the seller himself. Because - there isn't really a clear "market price" for a player, only an evaluation, and not all of us can do all the math and take all player attributes into account in a single glance.just today i saw a player with a market evaluation of "100K to 3.4 million". many of us dont have that much expirience to tell what an EXACT fair price is.we partly depend on others to "signal" for us - if there is a bidding war, then the price is probably reasonable. if i bid 500K and i see others bid 700K, i might think to myself that this is probably a fair price, cause other managers keep on bidding. however, if i see that the bidder is the seller himself, i might suspect that this is not actually a fair market price, and the seller is just squeezing for more $$$.
so - how about some kind of sign - an "alarm" that shows on the player page when the current bidder is the seller?
i think that would be more than fair.


Last edited by Gabi at 7/29/2010 6:21:44 AM

I agree, turn it read and point an arrow with text "bidder is the selling team" etc.

Mods:

Please change the name of this thread to 'Tempest in a Teapot.'

Some of you guys obviously dont know much about economics. In a frst price auction like this the market price is not what the highest bidder is willing to pay but rather whatever the second highest bidder is willing to pay + 1.

And this option to bid on your own player totally disrupts that.

Isn't what you just said the same as BB vs real basketball discussion ??

In any case, the debate is pointless. The transfer market holds risks for both the buyer and the seller, the main thing to consider is thinking for 2 seconds before clicking on sell or buy.


GL!

I think one of the most telling points of this debate is that nobody has anything good to say about being able to bid on your own player, some managers defend it, but not actually state a positive for its presence!!

For me, when the best that can be done is to defend something, but not claim a positive position for it being part of the game then this is something that should be looked at.

I think many managers would be happier if it was not possible to bid on your own players, but from this debate, I am not sure anyone would be unhappy should it be stopped?

that doesn't count, this was said before^^

Nice reply, you really touched all the important issues, and like I said before in my replies, I essentially agree with your views.

The one thing I don't fully agree with is the price to set when transfer listing players (and this isn't even related to the main topic itself). I don't know how this goes in the top divisions, but for the kind of players I buy or sell, listing them at a low price has the risk of ending up with an "unfair" bid, but it also helps gather more bidders. You may notice that when players come on the TL as FA, some players place lots of 1k bids to keep tabs on the players, I have done it myself. If one starts with a higher asking price, fewer people may notice it, and there's a bigger chance the player will go unnoticed if people set a low limit because of the newly arrived free agents.

Other than that, the idea of having a warning sign saying "Warning: the player owner is bidding on the player!" could be introduced, but I don't see much need for it, to be honest. If the bidders notice, they should stop bidding. If they don't and the price is not overblown, they're free to keep bidding. If the price goes over any reasonable valuation and someone still bids, then that's just throwing money away.

Other than that, the idea of having a warning sign saying "Warning: the player owner is bidding on the player!" could be introduced, but I don't see much need for it, to be honest.

you could see clearly the teamname, where he is and who is bidding.