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157112.49 in reply to 157112.48
Date: 9/20/2010 10:05:34 PM
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I don't think things are "recalculated."

As I said earlier, I think this whole discussion comes down to each person's own definition of what recalculated means.

For example if a shot is missed, the next calculation is for a rebound. If the shot is made, then it moves on to the next offensive possession.

While this is true, I think there is more to it.
For example, I think that if the shot is made, then the percentages change because the score has changed. Momentum has changed and so calculations are different.

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157112.50 in reply to 157112.49
Date: 9/21/2010 12:36:04 AM
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I really don't think there is much debate about what recalculated means. If something has not yet been calculated, it cannot be recalculated. In your example, regardless of the outcome, the next event will not yet have been calculated until the preceding event occurs. Recalculated and different parameters for the calculations are not the same thing. The calculations change every possession because of a variety of factors, not just a different score. Furthermore, I certainly hope that momentum does not swing after a single basket. That would, in the majority of cases, be very unrealistic.

At any rate, it is a silly argument. The main point is that games are simulated play by play. The play by play is not created after the final score is decided.

Last edited by somdetsfinest at 9/21/2010 12:39:19 AM

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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157112.51 in reply to 157112.50
Date: 9/21/2010 12:44:35 AM
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Furthermore, I certainly hope that momentum does not swing after a single basket. That would, in the majority of cases, be very unrealistic.


Momentum wouldn't change after every basket, but if the other team has scored 12 goals in a row and then misses then that could easily change momentum. Or my shooting guard misses 10 shots in a row and then gets one I think the momentum has changed. And I think this is similar to real life.

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157112.52 in reply to 157112.51
Date: 9/21/2010 3:41:50 AM
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Those would be instances not in the majority of cases, and I agree with you about them.

Last edited by somdetsfinest at 9/21/2010 3:49:12 AM

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157112.54 in reply to 157112.53
Date: 9/21/2010 5:45:54 PM
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Has been mentioned.

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157112.55 in reply to 157112.45
Date: 9/21/2010 7:26:10 PM
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That's what I am beginning to think as well. I thought it would simply re-calculate the game each time something happened that adversely affected one team or another, to bring you to the end result. This maybe true, but suggestion seems to point to every aspect from shots made & missed to free throws changing momentum in the game. If this is true, it's a real nice aspect to the game. No wonder there's 10k lines of code.


It almost has to be as Naker says. The inefficiencies built into recalculating the game after each event occurred would be huge. Calculating it sequentially give you a maximum run time per match (excluding OT which can be coded around). Recalculating the remaining events can exponentially increase the run time.

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157112.56 in reply to 157112.53
Date: 9/21/2010 9:44:35 PM
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This is not exactly true. When you watch your game "live" you are actually watching a replay of the simulation. The score is not determined before the simulation is run. It is, however, determined before you see it "live".

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157112.57 in reply to 157112.1
Date: 9/24/2010 4:33:56 PM
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watch this and tell me what you think. this is at least a fun discovery


(23941713) 9/18/2010 League Game (Televised)



(25870105) 9/21/2010 League Playoff Game




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157112.59 in reply to 157112.57
Date: 9/25/2010 5:26:42 AM
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watch this and tell me what you think. this is at least a fun discovery :)

(23941713) 9/18/2010 League Game (Televised)

(25870105) 9/21/2010 League Playoff Game

I think there's too much random.

;)

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