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Mutual TIE request, Fair / Unfair?

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From: naphtali

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Date: 2/28/2008 4:12:07 AM
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The "brianjames" solution is the best answer I've seen to this issue in a webgame.

The whole TIE / CT mechanic is one of my least favourite items in management games like this. You get friends forming TIE cartels to take down their non-friends. People colluding to prevent unpopular people from promoting or to cause them to demote. All sorts of things that you just don't need. What do you gain? Marginally greater tactical options that are difficult to balance.

From: Orsio

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Date: 2/28/2008 11:50:00 AM
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Is this considered a legal activity or collusion?

It does not really pass the smell test, but I know it happens with some teams and top-level leagues. The evidence is pretty clear when you look at the game reports.

Is there an official BB position on this?


How is this?

I read somewhere else that the effect of playing TIE cannot be seen on the stats.

From: JayP

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Enthusiasm levels directly affect defense and rebounding ratings.

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Enthusiasm levels directly affect defense and rebounding ratings.


ok so you see the effect on the NEXT game, not on the game you played TIE

But if you change players or change week (form change) you really cant see it

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ok so you see the effect on the NEXT game, not on the game you played TIE


Wrong.

You can definitely see a difference in the game that you TIE.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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Date: 2/28/2008 12:40:55 PM
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ok so you see the effect on the NEXT game, not on the game you played TIE


Wrong.

You can definitely see a difference in the game that you TIE.


where? also on rebounds and defense?

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Date: 2/28/2008 12:50:03 PM
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Ok, I'm done arguing with you.

Friends Do not Let Friends Play 2-3 Zone
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Date: 2/28/2008 12:50:26 PM
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Yes.

Anything involving enthusiasm affects those ratings.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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Date: 2/28/2008 5:41:23 PM
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I can't understand how this discussion got so heated.

As to the assertion mutual TIEs will eventually kill the userbase: A great number of us come from hattrick, and 35 seasons in, there are still mutual PICs. 900k users can't be that wrong.

What hasn't been mentioned is that if you would rather concentrate on the cup than the league, the ability to build enthusiasm in league games for use in important cup games is wonderful.

The only issue I can find that makes enthusiasm a bit out of place is the idea that you can take it easy in the playoffs/finals. If adopting more realism into the game is what users really want, then team attitude should be set on Crunch Time for the duration of the post-season. I disagree with this, as the challenge of using my enthusiasm as best I could in last season's playoffs was really quite exciting (even if it didn't work out for me).

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From: JayP

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Date: 2/28/2008 6:46:56 PM
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For me, the biggest problem with TIE is the way it affects the play-offs. I guess I can see it as an extra level of strategy, but I think it is too powerful. It is almost a penalty to go in as the #1 seed because then everybody is gunning for you and you can get CT'ed out of the play-offs.

You kind of have to hope that you've put together a better team than your opponents, but not so much better that they know they can't get past you on equal footing.

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