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From: shikago

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230495.49 in reply to 230495.48
Date: 12/20/2012 10:26:05 AM
Milwaukee Lethargy
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I'm going to finally get lucky and draft a prospect with MVP, HOF, or ATG potential. I'm tired of these weak drafts. I've had two top picks and have selected the best possible draftee in each drafts (Liu, and Gosling).


If potential is what matters most to you, I think you're better off buying a guy off the TL. The last MVP i drafted was with the 29th overall pick. That got me wondering, so I took a quick glance at those 2 drafts you mentioned:

There were 3 MVPs in the Gosling draft. One went as late as the 39th overall pick! The Liu draft looked to be almost devoid of high potential though. (quite a few announcers, lol). But a HOF guy was still taken with the 48th pick & preference of 37! That's right... the last pick of the draft & the team's 37th choice got them a HOF.

From: shikago

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Date: 12/20/2012 10:32:42 AM
Milwaukee Lethargy
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On the bright side, for most teams "all-star" potential is really all that's really needed for guards. Even just "star" potential can be a solid Division 1 contributor. As for D2... I won 20 games my last time here with an $11k player as my *only* option at SF. He may as well have been at "starter" potential.

Though I get the wanting of a higher potential player to turn a franchise type player. & the disappointment not getting one so far.





Last edited by shikago at 12/20/2012 10:33:24 AM

From: shikago

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Date: 12/20/2012 8:49:55 PM
Milwaukee Lethargy
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sigh... already have my main SG out with a 2 week injury. Now my backup gets injured 6 min into the cup game. And his backup for the game gets 5 fouls in the 1st half... as if my minutes needed to be messed up more.

GS training better work.

From: A-Dub

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Date: 12/21/2012 2:37:08 AM
Upsyndrome
IV.21
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+1 ball. Damn, (for lack of a better word), didn't think anyone was going to take the time and look at each individual draft, haha! Good eye.

Well, unfortunately for me, when drafting, all I see is balls (no homo). Both Liu and Gosling had max potential and best overall skills according to scouting reports. Oh, well.

Also, I kinda have a thing for drafting my own players. It makes me feel accomplished. Plus the game manuel, correct me if I'm wrong, implied that drafting your own players earns you more revenue, because they're considered "local" talent.

"You will lose." -Ivan Drago
From: shikago

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230495.53 in reply to 230495.52
Date: 12/21/2012 2:36:10 PM
Milwaukee Lethargy
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Yeah, you probably made the right choice. Nothing you can do when perennial all-star to ATG are all lumped together. Hopefully you at least get a superstar this time around.

I'm sure it's better to draft & develop a player in terms of merchandise... but I wonder exactly how big a difference there is between that & an American you buy off the TL? (Or a foreign NT player). BTW, How is your merchandise revenue now? Way over league average? Or not much above average? Since Liu and Gosling are your main stars, i wonder...


From: A-Dub

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Date: 12/23/2012 4:19:44 AM
Upsyndrome
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Yeah, I really don't think there's that much of a difference between American drafted/TL players. It's just a preference. Yeah, it takes longer to re-build, but it keeps me satisfied, and also, it adds an interesting aspect to the game -- drafting can be fun.

My revenue is declining week by week. It was a little over 200K and is near 195K. Although, I'm putting 40K into the draft (and have a 40K trainee that I need to replace) so its at 155K. I might go mid-season till I stop putting money into the draft, or once I find a few stud prospects. Many other Gm's would cringe at the thought of investing so much money into the draft, but I feel it can be rewarding, too. It's a gamble for sure -- one that I've lost so far -- but It would be rewarding to acquire a trainee worth 2m+.

Last edited by A-Dub at 12/23/2012 4:24:40 AM

"You will lose." -Ivan Drago
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From: shikago

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Date: 12/26/2012 2:59:07 PM
Milwaukee Lethargy
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It was a little over 200K and is near 195K.

Meant just the merchandise revenue. (for example... league average is only $50k)
Like... was wondering if you were maybe up near $100k in merchandise revenue. Even despite your record this season. Or conversely, if having drafted your own stars didn't help much & you were around the league average?

It's probably not a horrible idea investing in the draft this season. You'll get your first choice & quite possibly a decent 2nd round player. (Who knows, maybe even a lower skilled, high potential guy in round 3!) And like you said, there's the whole enjoyment aspect of it too.


But just in general: (not talking about your situation...)
I've definitely sided with not spending $ on the draft school of thought. (purely in terms of cost/benefit). Haven't looked in a very long time, but trainable draft picks were always winnable on the TL for even under $10k. With very decent draftees at under $50k. Sure, they weren't ATGs with all skills respectable & a $6k starting salary... But were players plenty sufficient for the vast majority of teams looking to train & keep a player. (even more so for d5,d4, & d3 teams). Of course the type of player you're hoping for would cost a fortune on the TL however!

Last edited by shikago at 12/26/2012 3:07:00 PM

From: shikago
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Date: 12/26/2012 3:16:36 PM
Milwaukee Lethargy
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Overall Posts Rated:
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Wow, i pretty much wrote off my last game as a loss! Got away with all backups & less effort!!
Not even my top backup team... starting SG's injured so had to go 1 backup deeper. Plus backups weren't in optimal GS. So it's a pretty nice surprise. (The one week / year having a huge roster payed off!)

The negative:
Of course my d3 cup opponent threw their last game & just picked up a $55k guy in *proficient* GS. And will quite possibly CT me at their place. So now i need to waste enthusiasm & screw up minutes again. sigh...


(and i'm now retroactively mad that i didn't get to see an Alas vs. Grubbs matchup in my last game too. Really wanted to see that. So for totally screwing up the BB x-mas week for me... I'm declaring D3 team "Pigeon Boys" jagbag of the week!)

Last edited by shikago at 12/26/2012 3:20:16 PM

From: A-Dub

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Date: 1/5/2013 12:19:40 AM
Upsyndrome
IV.21
Overall Posts Rated:
708708
Second Team:
Upsyndrome II
Oh, my bad. At the start of the season it was at 69K, now it's at 54K and just recently 56K. It varies.

"You will lose." -Ivan Drago
From: Lucas

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Date: 1/5/2013 3:38:04 PM
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With an all american team and a usual NT starter (that I also drafted) I've only gotten 100k merch once ever.

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