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Date: 9/16/2013 7:50:13 AM
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Going back to my GM days, i'm pretty sure if a NT coach's popularity drops below a certain point (can't remember what the threshold is) or if he goes bot, they can put a replacement in. Their system was to put in whoever got the 2nd highest votes then 3rd highest etc

From: iwen

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If I win, I promise to put every single Australian player into the NT. Every one. Think of the merchandise everyone will get.

Vote #1 llama


Middle class welfare.

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Date: 9/16/2013 9:21:44 AM
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Pfft, where was the understanding for me when I forgot to get a scrimmage as U21 coach? You poxy racists

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There was a case this (last) season (24) where a manager did exactly that, he put his entire team on the national team. It was in a fairly large nation like Latvia as well. The GMs removed him after about two weeks and put the person who got the next most votes in although major damage was done with a couple of huge losses and enthusiasm of one.

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:o u didn't set a scrimmage? I approved of u while u were in aswell.

I feel violated now!

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Date: 9/16/2013 5:48:53 PM
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You are correct, it was Latvia, it was their U21's (244548.1). tough position.

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Dire wolf wins! Nuff said )

Manager of the Bahamas National Team!
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Date: 9/22/2013 8:07:04 AM
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Bit of a segway from the recent Buoc Pham saga.

Firstly this post is not a witch-hunt or blame game. Just want to get some dicussion going surrounding NT training player mentoring etc etc.

We have these concepts now of U21 manager, U21 SF mentor, NT C/PF mentors etc etc. Yet somehow we will lose this guy.
So here are the relevant Pham's stats who by the way is 26, HoF 7'0
Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: awful
Outside Def.: awful Handling: pitiful
Driving: respectable Passing: atrocious
Inside Shot: colossal Inside Def.: colossal ↑
Rebounding: marvelous Shot Blocking: strong

and a recent post by Whitebeard quotes
. His secondaries aren't even up to scratch which is extremely important at the national level.
- which has been echoed by other managers and yer thats cool......

Again, no offence to Bainsy who trained him for the last 3 seasons after picking him up as a Free Agent. But two points I want to raise.

A) So how does this guy end up with Atrocious passing? As being part of the U21 team, and then probably on the horizons after that for NT duties, how come nobody stepped in? you have 8 seasons of a trainee to get to 26 and nobody could spare one season of guard training on the guy?
Perhaps this guy wasn't on the radar of the NT manager's, but by the sounds of it, he should have been! I realise maybe it didnt fit into Bainsy's training plan for past 3 seasons so fair enough, but shouldnt fringe NT players be on the radar of a relevant mentor/coach/manager and all is required is a quick? "Hey Bainsy, if you want him to be NT, you will need his Passing to be at least inept by the time he is 26".... or something like that.
Maybe this did happen i dont know.

And b) should we as a community have done better to alert his sale to the community?

ill say it again - not pointing fingers as B-mac here at all......, but fk we have forums dedicated to Aussie player sales, we have mentors left right n centre, so perhaps we need to look at better ways of tracking this kind of thing such that it doesnt happen as often. Whitebeard listed him in the player ad's in 2012 - ill bet a million bucks WB was NT coach then. Or U21 or something.

DW is about to take over from an aging NT where 34 year olds will probably get a gig. (that means i can play!!!!!!!)....As part of NT manager/assistant/mentor, there should be more involvement over future potential trainee's to have better 'turnover' as such.....I think too many people are worried about the 'now' in terms of U21/NT and too few worried about 'the future'.....
Now maybe there is and Buoc is an exception to the rule, im just using this situation to bring it to the forefront.

Id like a 1000 word essay from each of you on this matter on my desk by 10am tomorrow.

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Date: 9/22/2013 8:29:17 AM
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Dire and I have all ready raised an better system for guys past 21 NT who could make the NT side.
Yes it seems this guy never got the training he needed in passing. He could of also used some Rebounding.

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Date: 9/22/2013 8:33:16 AM
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Well people can only put so much time into this and over the last six months of real time there has been an awesome buzz about the U21 team while the senior team has been a stony silence. People are attracted by the buzz, it is just natural. I am hoping things will change this week (with two NT players I am very interested in what happens).

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Date: 9/22/2013 8:36:12 AM
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Things changed when Brooksy took over.

Scouted players @ Season 22 which includes Pham with skills that I wanted him to have which includes 3 passing because Sun Cunming one of our legends was really good even with 3 passing and pointless to over train a skill where we could focus elsewhere - http://forum.buzzerbeaterstats.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&...

At 23 this was his skills and recommended training by me.

Jump Shot: average Jump Range: awful
Outside Def.: awful Handling: pitiful
Driving: respectable Passing: atrocious
Inside Shot: prodigious Inside Def.: marvelous
Rebounding: wondrous Shot Blocking: average
Stamina: awful Free Throw: pitiful

Experience: inept

Recommended training: ID (17+), IS (17+), RB (16+), Forward 1on1 (DR 10+), PS (3+), FT (50%+), ST (4+)

Staff @ Season 22 and I'm not sure if Melbourne demons the previous manager ever was responsive to Micky so wouldn't know if he followed the recommended training - http://forum.buzzerbeaterstats.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&...

Scouted bigs @ Season 23 by Micky with slightly changed recommended training - http://forum.buzzerbeaterstats.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&...

Season 24 Brooksy makes a comment about taking over big men training after Micky gets U21 gig.

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