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can you imagine Andris Biedrins shooting last seconds jump shot or even 3pt shot? hell no. this last second shot thing needs to be changed. maybe add some options when set lineup, like go to player and his backup. because how this is playing now is really unrealistic. there are very few teams with really good jumpshooting and 3pt shooting C and PF in real world. and 8 sec is a lot of time - there is no way that C could not get pass to another a lot better shooter in these 8 sec.

Last edited by kaprons at 7/26/2009 6:12:52 AM

In modern day basketball most PF's, C's are capable of shooting 3 point shots. Some of them are even great at shooting those. You do not seem to understand that -> it's better to shoot than just stand there and not shoot. I will take Biedrins shooting an open 3 any time, rather than not shooting at all or desperation shot with 2 defenders on you who know you must shoot (not even near the 3 point line).
If you create an end game go to guy then there is also an option of double-teaming that guy or denieing the ball to him nomatter what. Option to foul rather then give up 3 pointer etc.
Try to get you're team to a point where you are not trailing in the last minute of the 4-th quarter. Usually with close games, the one leading will win. Seldom I have seen those miraculas comebacks or winning 3-s in the end. There are not enough games decided by that last minute.

Mate, this post is not about scoring 3 point shot at the last second– its about development of the last attack

why i have not seen those great shooters? Dirk, Gasol, Odom are the only ones i can think of making 3pt right now. and you even watch basketball? if g2guy is double teamed (lets take Warriors in example) 8 sec is a awful lot of time to get ball to Ellis (g2guy) or Jackson or anyone else instead of Biedrins and then they make the shot. or at least try drive to basket not make stupid 3pt shot. it is like shoot from halfcourt and pray to go in.
and you dont need to deliver ball to g2guy with 1 pass. you look at this like there are only black and white and no gray area there, looks like you think that g2guy is double teamed then he wont even get the ball and shot must be taken by open player even he can not make normal jumpshot.

How many tight games have you watched in BB? 100-200-1000??? You can not judge it considering just one bad shot. Usually the C's do not take that last shot. Once again I would let my average JS C to shoot against inept OD C.

What year are you living in? A lot of PF's, C's can shoot the 3 anywhere in europe. Yourself coming from lithuania should know it better than anyone. Yes there are old fashioned C's still in the game (like Howard, Shaq) etc.
Perhaps it easyer to play those onesided C's in NBA as it's more physical and more one on one type of basketball.
I give you some examples from NBA.
LA - Walton, Odom (Gasol has an awful shooting motion); Utah - Okur, Kirilenko; Portland - Aldridge, Outlaw; Houston - Ming could actually shoot when he came to NBA but his shot selection has changed until then; SAS - M.Bonner, Duncan can prolly hit behind the arc aswell; Dallas - Dirk; Den - Kleiza!!!, Martin, Nene and Andersen can hit aswell; Hornets - Peja, West; Cavs - Ilgauskas!!! (I know it's hard to know guys who refuse to help the national team); Detroit - Wallace, Prince; Atl - Smith; Miami - Beasley, Blount; Orl - Prolly the whole team can hit the 3 (except Howard:D:D:D); Philly - Marshall; Bos - Scalabrine (Garnett can actually hit from 3 aswell), Bulls - Miller, Thomas.
The list goes on and on. Basically every team has one or 2 big men who can hit from downtown. Even more so in Europe. Basically if you looked at the olympics basketball, can you say that Anthony, Lebron, Wade and Kobe can not play the PF position? Hell even Kidd could play PF.

The discussion of NBA big men who can shoot threes is getting a little too off-topic. Please address the issues in the original post directly the rest of the way.

My take: it was not the greatest choice, and I'd hope that your result doesn't happen too often. As Dr. Jàn said, rare outcomes do happen to someone every week.

And, besides, teams and players shouldn't always take the best option, if the game is meant to model human beings. Some players are going to have the game IQ of, say, PJ Brown. Maybe the game engine modelled your center as Zach Randolph for that possession. Some end-game strategies are designed by Larry Brown, some by Mike Brown.

Last edited by Mod-oeuftete at 7/26/2009 11:41:57 AM

there is big difference in percentage they can hit, if player can hit 1 from 10 from 3pt just literally means he can hit those shots.
and as author said - his C has worst JR in team, so there are no good reason why that C should make that 3pt shot instead of passing ball to someone else when there is 6 sec left.

Nobody knows . If he had a choice to shoot against an atrocios defence? I won a couple of games. My center was making the last shot - enept/enept and it was in.

I would refer everyone to this article (read the end of the diary in particular), as an example how one should think about things your buzzerbeater players do...

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/090311&sportCat=nba

if you have as much fun bitching to your friends/readers as bill simmons does complaining about Zach Randolph doing exactly what your center did (note the time, 6 seconds left), than I think you'll enjoy this game a lot more.

We are always open to suggestions and improvements, but perfect robotic basketball is not what we are going for here.. cause that would be boring and lack personality. Why don't you just nickname your center "Zach" and gleefully bitch at him everytime he misses a jump shot that he clearly shouldn't have taken (unless of course it went in, in which case he is brilliant).

Last edited by BB-Forrest at 7/26/2009 1:14:59 PM