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105684.5 in reply to 105684.4
Date: 8/19/2009 10:35:04 PM
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ahh nice, feeling a lot more confident about my decisions now. I thought I was going crazy coz everyone in my division is doing it differently to me!!!

Thank you for clearing this up. Cheers

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105684.6 in reply to 105684.2
Date: 8/20/2009 4:03:32 AM
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if you are playing against a weak inside defense, slowing down the offense will decrease your field goal percentage because of the last second shots..


i will sign that

if you think that you will be able to score %30-35 of the inside shots you will try, go for Low Post so it can take your field goal percentage up to %40-45..


because of the point above i go for fast tactics against stronger defenses, because usually you struggle with the time which decreases your shooting percentages.

you also have to be careful about passing and handling when playing Low Post because as you keep the offense longer, the possibility of a turnover will increase..


not any more, today it is easier to hold the ball with slow tactics, but a good flow is important for slow tactics because you need to find better to looks before your player will finish the attack.

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105684.7 in reply to 105684.6
Date: 8/20/2009 4:07:56 AM
Cruesli
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Are you saying you choose fast tactics against weaker AND stronger defense?

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105684.8 in reply to 105684.7
Date: 8/20/2009 4:19:04 AM
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i normally go for fast tactics thats right, but if i play slow then against weak defenses because against strong defences i shot yshot last second shots, and my flow isn't really bad.

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105684.9 in reply to 105684.7
Date: 8/20/2009 4:28:20 AM
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I think he meant the opposite,
L.P -> Weak Inside Defense.
L.I -> Stronger Inside Defense.

Which I am now confused.

Yo! Yo! D for D best PF in D Aussie BB. D Name is Kye Duffill (10080211), averages nothing but pure amazing! Vote for Duffman!
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105684.10 in reply to 105684.8
Date: 8/20/2009 4:37:11 AM
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Are you guys saying that the shot clock is a factor of ur shot accuracy?

I notice with L.I used against tough inside defense, my players dont force their way in like L.P, but they just take shots from outside.

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105684.11 in reply to 105684.10
Date: 8/20/2009 4:47:20 AM
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Are you guys saying that the shot clock is a factor of ur shot accuracy?


yes let explain it like that:

- at the beginn of the offense, your player have the target to get a good shot, and start with a optimistic approach(lets take 60%)

- if the attack goes longer this value decreasing, because it becomes unlikely that you still get that shot

- when the clock runs down they throw the ball onto the basket no matter what shot it is

With slower pace the starting percentages is higher, which will also depend on the sucess of past shot and the experienced from the player(experience should help the player to guess the percentage of the shot)

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105684.12 in reply to 105684.9
Date: 8/20/2009 4:49:34 AM
Cruesli
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I think he meant the opposite,
L.P -> Weak Inside Defense.
L.I -> Stronger Inside Defense.

Which I am now confused.


Crazye eye and moutlinho seem to have opposite opinions regarding this. Personally I'm still having trouble figuring out whether LI or LP works better for me and against which kind of teams. So I'm following this thread with interest.

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105684.13 in reply to 105684.11
Date: 8/20/2009 5:34:50 AM
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- at the beginn of the offense, your player have the target to get a good shot, and start with a optimistic approach(lets take 60%)


This target is determined by your inside shot rating and opponent's defensive strat + defense skill?

e.g say if i have strong inside shot vs man to man, atrocious inside defense, my accuracy % will be higher.. like 80%?

This is a very interesting logic...

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105684.14 in reply to 105684.13
Date: 8/20/2009 5:48:29 AM
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This target is determined by your inside shot rating and opponent's defensive strat + defense skill?


as i said before, just a quote form the rules(it time that you could switch to english rules on the rules page :():

The central part of the game engine is how the half court offense/defense works. The general idea is that a team gets a series of opportunities to score. What kind, and what the quality of those opportunities are is a function of the offense they are running, the matchups between the offensive players and their defenders. A player must decide whether the opportunity presented is good enough to take a shot… this of course changes as a function of amongst other things… the shot clock, the players experience, the score of the game, the history of the quality of shots the team has seen recently, the offense the team is running, and whether that rookie shooting guard of yours thinks he knows better than the coach does how good he is at making jump shots.


e.g say if i have strong inside shot vs man to man, atrocious inside defense, my accuracy % will be higher.. like 80%?


i don't think so, i believe i read a post from a BB that the current standing also plays a role. So that they will obvioulsly play more careless against such a week team - maybe you reach such stats if both team struggles that much.

Also i such matches you normally don't have better percentages then 50-60%:

(6169) - thats my experience with unbalanced matchups.

Edit: this one is even better example ->(5340)

Last edited by CrazyEye at 8/20/2009 5:49:50 AM

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105684.15 in reply to 105684.14
Date: 8/20/2009 9:28:22 AM
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In general it's better to use slow paced tactics in close games and fast paced tactics in games you expect to win big.

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 8/20/2009 9:28:35 AM

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