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You should be making a good portion of your income from ticket sales, some from training, and merchandise should really be ancillary income.

always the same song...

i finished 5th and there's 3 weeks without tickets...

45k (10 players)
15k (1+5+3)

60k x 3 weeks = 180 of sure loses...
4500 income merchandising... x 3 weeks

-165 000 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who can mantain this economy??

Most teams can.

I know it seems bleak now, but we heard this ad nauseum at the end of last season. Everyone was complaining how they were going under and wouldn't survive the offseason.

Look, you may dip into the red. The beginning of next season will get you back in the black. You, and everyone else who practices some decent management skills, will be fine.

Just manage your team well and you will see that there is nothing wrong with the economy as it is.

There is no need to have a roster of 21 players

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Don't think that you can have in team all national players, you need players strong enough to win your championship. Probably, imho, there are still too much money, what I like of this game is that at the end is not so easy to manage all aspects but is also not so complicated.
Stop to ask more money just because you want to buy the best player paying him 5 millions ;)

Don't think that you can have in team all national players, you need players strong enough to win your championship. Probably, imho, there are still too much money, what I like of this game is that at the end is not so easy to manage all aspects but is also not so complicated.
Stop to ask more money just because you want to buy the best player paying him 5 millions ;)

Yes but I that you can't change the arena tickets prize for a month is painful, specially for newbies

In my case: my team lost the first TV match by a bunch when it was a bot but I suffered the penalty when I received the team (and also don't receive the TV income)

I have played others games where the better strategy is to keep tickets high, so my first month I test that resulting in very low attendances. After the first match I knew it was wrong, but couldn't change it for a whole month (1/3 of the season)

next month I put medium tickets and also hired a PR 10 - just 50% attendances, so this month i lowered tickets a bit more, but I'm losing money again because now in playoffs the arena is full.

I have two suggestions to improve economy management without boosting the income:

1 - Let change arena tickets weekly instead monthly

2 - Share TV income between all weeks: so you know how much income it will be and can plan better (i read at the forum the income was 200-220k and spent accordingly, but one month late found that at my division the income was only 120-140k...) and also if a manager joins in the middle of the season receive a proportional part. I've just missed one match this season, but had 2/3 TV income

I'm a succesful manager (just see my transfer balance and team ratings) but i have a serious debt. I wish my stars sell well because if they put a lot of free agents at season's end again... well my team will go to bankrupt

I have played others games where the better strategy is to keep tickets high, so my first month I test that resulting in very low attendances. After the first match I knew it was wrong, but couldn't change it for a whole month (1/3 of the season)

next month I put medium tickets and also hired a PR 10 - just 50% attendances, so this month i lowered tickets a bit more, but I'm losing money again because now in playoffs the arena is full.

These are just all beginner faults, every beginner should be carefull with his money and learn everything first before spending it on a 25k a week lvl 10 PR manager. Nothing to blame the game here.

I'm a succesful manager (just see my transfer balance and team ratings) but i have a serious debt. I wish my stars sell well because if they put a lot of free agents at season's end again... well my team will go to bankrupt

You call youself a succesfull manager while you are in debt. Don't you think that's a little adversative? (no offense)
Of course everyone wants to buy nice players etc, but you need to put your roster in perspective of your division. There is no need at all to have 5 players with high salary's (4500+) in the fifth division. I play in the 3rd and I pay only 41k, and still I will play the PO finals soon.

Managing is not just buying and selling players and put up a team who performs well, there is a lot more included in managing, for example to get a healthy economy.

Edited by PatjeBono (1/16/2008 12:36:41 AM CET)

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 1/16/2008 12:36:41 AM

These are just all beginner faults, every beginner should be carefull with his money and learn everything first before spending it on a 25k a week lvl 10 PR manager. Nothing to blame the game here.

Yes when i started to play the forum was full of threads telling that a level 10 PR won't pay off unless you were in 2nd division (i thought he would pay off in the long run, but two weeks ago i decided to fire him but only had level 9 and level 8 replacements till few days ago), or never put tickets at maximum and expected TV income at division 5 and so on. I was so beginner and stupid that did not found them, so i tried to learn by try-error, but the punishment is too much.

Also if those beginners mistakes costs you so much I BLAME the game for not providing a better begginer's guide or simply give me more control and reaction over my economy.

You can change the tactic and team effort for every match but not the tickets: You have much more control over how your team performs than over economy. Also had very bad luck, but i haven't gone to bankrupt yet

You call youself a succesfull manager while you are in debt. Don't you think that's a little adversative? (no offense)
Of course everyone wants to buy nice players etc, but you need to put your roster in perspective of your division. There is no need at all to have 5 players with high salary's (4500+) in the fifth division. I play in the 3rd and I pay only 41k, and still I will play the PO finals soon.

two of that players cost me a little (less than 5000k) or are my trainees half of them i planl sell at this season end, they had less salary but with new instant salary adjust...

Managing is not just buying and selling players and put up a team who performs well, there is a lot more included in managing, for example to get a healthy economy

Really? I thought that if you buy cheap players and sell valuable trained players your economy will be healthy...

seriously without a search tool for the forum its difficult to find the topics that might helped me. I just have no time for reading 100 threads every day

Dispite of our divergences thanks PatjeBono for you constructive and valuable opinion.

you must be very stupid to bankrupt

None of that.

When it gets personal is when we have a problem.

actually who said managing a team is easy!

for example, you cant sell all your good or best players and hope to develop the young ones and you tank on the losses and rant you cant get enough money!

this is healthy on your economy at the start with the boost of sudden big amount of cash, but in the long run you dont get attendee's so you suffer.

an example in real life is the LA Clippers, when the owner wouldnt want to get good guys which is = big salaries, so what happens their attendance were the worst and the only time they get people to come is when the kobe, or some really big stars come to your town. imagine they let guys like danny manning, ron harper on their best years go! so when they were able to convince the owner here comes brand and etc. so are they competitive now.

your merchandise sales also reflect on what your team is, if your team sucks would people buys their jerseys unless you got a lebron type players that get 30 pts 10 rebs 10 assist on a losing streak. imagine have you heard of loy vaught? ( unless your a fantasy geek) in case you dont know he was the star on the clippers sucks team that time.

let us not forget, the key here is making a competitive team while not making much strain on your expenses. meaning what you earn a week on your home games should be bigger than your weekly expense. this way you get to be afloat on your money.

now if you have a competitive team meaning you can win more than 50% of your games, or you think you are winning meaning if you see your attendance full or 85% full start building or better yet if you can do both at the same time getting wins and build your arena. slowly your making a buzz and people are coming.

choosing players, you dont need to get a player with skills of almost everything average to respectable, just think what you need meaning if you need a low post guy then look for inside scoring, rebs, if your the run and gun type go with outside shooting. just see what skills you need and its how you use them. no matter how they are good for example in outside shot but you center plays inside your going to count more on inside shot than that.

hope this helps