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132700.5 in reply to 132700.1
Date: 2/26/2010 6:23:42 PM
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im currently training a SF and he popped in ID (proficent). He also has OD (strong). Train ur SF in both OD and ID. i guess you are training Vassilis Gkertsos who is 6'5 and is a great height to train both inside and outside. Im just going on your players salary and i think you might be weaker in OD. I like to play 2-3 as well and it is important to train both. Just my opinon.

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Date: 2/26/2010 7:59:30 PM
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im training my man to be sf in the future and he is 18. im training his inside skills at the first year and that will be the only year i will train him inside... i have been told that outside skills is really more important than inside for most of the offence plays.

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Date: 2/27/2010 2:14:11 AM
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I am working my own SF prospect, he is 6'5, lvl 4 trainer, and this season got: 1 position training on OD, 1 week JS, 2 weeks ID 1 position, 3 weeks rebs, 1 week IS 1 position. Result? only 2 pop ups on ID/RE...is really painful for me. My 23 y/o C, got by the same time (no OD training) 5 pop ups...

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132700.8 in reply to 132700.3
Date: 2/27/2010 4:39:00 AM
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I think that it's not the hardest position to train..

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132700.9 in reply to 132700.8
Date: 2/27/2010 6:29:45 AM
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ok, in your opinion , what is the hardest position to train? because , definitely, a good SF, with decent inside/outside skills is very hard to train

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132700.10 in reply to 132700.9
Date: 2/27/2010 8:48:53 AM
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I know that is very hard to train, but I think that a good PF is probably the hardest because a Power Forward isn't just a Center with some Jump Shot.

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132700.11 in reply to 132700.9
Date: 2/27/2010 9:18:58 AM
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I have to agree SF is easily the hardest position to train. I mean a proper SF none of this SG with average/respectable ID. Especially if they are being 1 position trained and have to be played at C or PG.

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132700.12 in reply to 132700.11
Date: 2/27/2010 10:14:20 AM
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I think starting out a SF is definitely the hardest to train because it can hurt your league games if he has to start at PG or C. After a season or so, when his skills are up some, I really like training the SF because you can get some training for your guards and for you bigs.

I have gone to 2 pos training, so half the season I train PG/SG and the other half I train PF/C. I have 2 players that are always training, so there are 6 other players that get training also (even for just half the season). I know this is a little slower, but I like having a good all around team. Just my preference...

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132700.13 in reply to 132700.11
Date: 2/27/2010 10:49:29 AM
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come on forwardtrainers. stop crying!

i agree, for a new team or a teammanager who wants quick success, forward-training isnt the recommended option.

but i'm with digler here. if u are on buzzerbeater for 2 or more seasons, the rookies aren't good enough to start in most cases anyway. so you let him come off the bench for your regular season games and let catch up his 48 trainingminutes in frindlies/cupgames/ throw away games.
some day, when he got some respectables or proficients he still isnt as good as your starting c if he playes the 5, but the new matchupsystem is a good way to handle this problem. e.g. youu could play a run&gun with your smallforwrd on the 5, creating a missmatch for the opposing center (you could still match him up vs the opposing sf in defense).
in weeks with two or three important games (e.g playoffs) you can still choose a twoposition-training like jumpshot/driving/rebound or even stamina or freethrows.

i guess you always have to choose, regardless of position: do i want to train my best prospect(s) or do i want to win EVERY game.
for the forwardtrainers MAYBE ( i don't want to blame guard- or bigmen trainers) it last a bit longer untill you see the success, but im convinced in the long run it turns out.

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132700.15 in reply to 132700.1
Date: 2/27/2010 11:11:01 AM
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since this thread was highjacked again, at least i want to answer your entering question.

i'm with most of the others. sf should be able to guard both defensive ends, but od seems to be more important in general.
you say you play 2-3 most games. - why? do you adapt your defensive system to your opponents offense or do you just want to go for the rebounds?

if u really want to play a 2-3 because you think the opponent has his strengh inside, i would recommend sf's id-lvl should not be much worse than the id of pf and c. an awful id player will not help much guarding a driving guard or a posting frontcourt.
surely, the zone has the advantage, that the other two (or four) can help a weaker defender better than in m2m, but still the game is matchup based. maybe it needs some timeouts, but the opponent will still try to create a shot vs the weekest defender/ for his best matchup.

Last edited by schubrakete at 2/27/2010 11:13:04 AM

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