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140145.5 in reply to 140145.4
Date: 4/11/2010 8:55:30 AM
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Generally i think 2 position training is better when your new.


I would like to know on what basis you think so.

Last edited by CorruptCop at 4/11/2010 8:56:44 AM

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140145.6 in reply to 140145.5
Date: 4/11/2010 9:01:34 AM
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I also agree with aussie dude.

I think that when you are new you don't have many good players, so it is better if you train 5 or 6 players at 2 positions because then you have 5 or 6 players that are constantly improving and 2 position training isn't that much less effective than 1 position training.

If new teams do 1 position training, then they are only improving 3 players while the rest of the team would still suck.

Why do you think 1 position training is better?

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140145.7 in reply to 140145.6
Date: 4/11/2010 9:13:09 AM
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I do not necessarily believe 1 position is better, although it is the approach I am taking currently.

However I am always interested in learning and hearing other points of view so thoughts on why 2 position training is more beneficial may make me reconsider what I am doing.

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140145.8 in reply to 140145.7
Date: 4/11/2010 9:15:42 AM
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Okay. Well last season was my first season, I did 2 position training the whole season on young guys (18-21). I had 6 young guys. I had 6 cheap older guys to fill the other spots. At the end of the season I sold all of them for lots of money after I promoted. This season I got a very good draftee and I want to train him for the national team, so I am 1 position training this season, and with all the money I had I bought a bunch of older guys for the other spots.

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140145.9 in reply to 140145.8
Date: 4/11/2010 9:39:27 AM
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Well can't knock the approach. From my limited experience, your team looks pretty strong for one just over a season old.

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140145.10 in reply to 140145.9
Date: 4/11/2010 9:45:35 AM
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Thanks :)

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140145.11 in reply to 140145.7
Date: 4/11/2010 11:51:51 AM
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Well 2 position training gives you more total training then 1 position training it is just spread across more players. When your new and in the lower divisions i think a solid even team is enough to promote. It's more in the higher divisions where the 1 position trained stars with the high potential become more important. It's also a money thing if your doing 1 position training wages will rise fast especially on big men. It will also cost more to buy trainees because if u are doing 1 position training you will want high potential guys so you can train them for longer.

Last edited by aussie dude at 4/11/2010 11:52:49 AM

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140145.12 in reply to 140145.11
Date: 4/11/2010 12:24:34 PM
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It seems by that logic team training various attributes would be even better.

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140145.13 in reply to 140145.12
Date: 4/11/2010 12:32:06 PM
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No, because team training is wayyyyy too slow. Look at it this way: 3 players x full training = 3 full training for 1 position
For 2 position: 6 players x 70% training of 1 position = 4.2 players worth of full training.
For team training: 12 players x 15% training of 1 position = 1.8 players worth of full training. And personally I think that 15% is being generous.

So as you can see, 2 position training is the best for the team.

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140145.14 in reply to 140145.13
Date: 4/11/2010 1:12:29 PM
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Upon what do you base your assumptions about the various training speeds?

I may be able to go along with 70% for 2 position, although how do you arrive at that precise figure, and not say 75% or 80%?

The team training figure also looks questionable.

Further, if you are going to allocate 3 players per position on the "specialist" trainings, then for the sake of fair comparison we should do the same with team training, which means 15 and not 12 players getting training.

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140145.15 in reply to 140145.14
Date: 4/11/2010 1:25:15 PM
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They were just estimates. I made my estimate by looking at the training speed analysis thread and noticed that there isn't too much difference between 1 position training and 2 position training. Most estimates change by about a week.

The team training estimate was a complete guess. But I know managers that have tried it and they have said that it can take 4 weeks and more for a pop in driving and that is one of the faster skills. From this I deduced that the team training is very very slow per person. Maybe if I change the estimate from 15% to 30% that would be more accurate perhaps.

It is far easier to get 3 players 48 minutes each than to get 15 players 48 minutes each.
But lets consider 15 players x 30% of 1 position training = 4.5 players worth of full training. Still not as good as 2 position training and we are being quite generous with the figures here especially in getting 15 players 48 minutes each.

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