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198501.5 in reply to 198501.1
Date: 10/14/2011 5:14:15 PM
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I would and probably should defer to your impressive experience
but
I would have to say that the 2 fellows with 80+ minutes would have dropped instead of improved,
and Meskells at 79 and Xofre at 76 were iffy at best to hold on to where they were
also don't have their minutes from previous week
there are of course a few that I would have been disspointed in like yourself
but all in all,not that out of whack

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198501.6 in reply to 198501.5
Date: 10/14/2011 5:26:25 PM
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The guys with 80+ probably wouldn't have improved yeah, but they wouldn't have dropped either. Generally 65-75 is ideal. But with massage specialty, that would go up to about 85. It's at 90+ minutes where they really start dropping with massage specialty. 75-80 isn't bad at all and they would've had a good shot at improving their GS I've found. I mean it seems like GS training obviously did help a bit, but hardly enough to warrant training it with these results so I'm just wondering if there's some sort of RNG capacity to training GS, or training in general

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198501.7 in reply to 198501.6
Date: 10/14/2011 5:36:19 PM
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If there is a problem with GS imagine those who doesn't trained that, like me:

63 min. DOWN (big guy) from excel to strong, half DMI
61 min. DOWN (big guy) the same, too half DMI
48 min. KEEP losing DMI (big guy) stay in strong middle DMI
48 min. DOWN (the most big guy) go down from strong to respectable. My most important player.
59 min. KEEP (big guy) excel, thanks god (I'm atheist)

Every weeks very cared their minutes, don't think last weeks they got 80+ minutes, no, every week they were very cared.

This are my most important players, others went down too.

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198501.8 in reply to 198501.7
Date: 10/14/2011 6:26:55 PM
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They need more minutes. 60-75.

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198501.9 in reply to 198501.8
Date: 10/14/2011 7:03:17 PM
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Like my guards, 61 and 63 minutes, oh yea

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198501.10 in reply to 198501.9
Date: 10/14/2011 8:17:37 PM
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guards need more minutes than big men. and I'm talking more about training GS, not just GS alone

From: j9s3

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198501.11 in reply to 198501.10
Date: 10/14/2011 10:18:52 PM
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guards need more minutes than big men. and I'm talking more about training GS, not just GS alone


Wait, really? I never knew that.
Is this proven or is it a theory?

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198501.13 in reply to 198501.1
Date: 10/14/2011 11:25:54 PM
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My personal (anecdotal, unconfirmed, unresearched) observation is that Game Shape training has no practical effect if the "true" game shape is higher than respectable. So, my opinion is, it's a crutch for the people that don't manage minutes for one reason or another, while kicking the rest of us in the teeth.

From: Azariah

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198501.15 in reply to 198501.14
Date: 10/14/2011 11:35:23 PM
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But that's my point. If a player is strong and has 100 minutes this week, his "true GS" is going to be respectable or average at the training update. Training GS will typically help that situation, keeping him at high respectable or strong.

By contrast, if I get my players 60 minutes a week, week-in and week-out, their natural GS is going to be medium strong or better pretty much all the time. Training GS will do me jack diddly.

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